Vlad Klitschko vs the following

Why did he get gassed? Why didn't he gas out against other fighters at the time? Because he was getting pressed out of his comfort zone and taking a beatdown.. The gas got punched out of him.

He aint one of the best boxers in history, not by a long shot.
Does one of the best boxers in history get dropped by the major tv stations in the UK and the US who's fights are only a big deal in Germany? Nobody give a **** about K2 in America apart from a bunch of forum eduacted fanboys.

Chisora wasn't just talked about. The contract was signed and the fight was to take place. Are you saying Chisora wasn't a live body at the time? He showd he had the heart, chin and determination against helenius and his brother. His camp knew he was to dangerous and took him out of the fight.
Are you disputing that?
The fights he took since then against Thompson and Wach were miles further down the barrell than Chisora was.

 

Not true at all. He kicked ten barrells of **** out of the two men until he gassed. Times like that it's either **** training or **** stamina. Considering he's gone twelve since then I'm saying it's the former.

What type of **** are you talking about now? How many people in boxing history would you pick to beat Wlad on the outside?

Chisora was not a live body by any stretch. I completely dispute that. When it was due to be made he was unbeaten but also unranked. His best victory was against sam fukin sexton. A fight he was losing before rallying late to secure the stoppage. He then got dicked by a fellow unranked fighter in Tyson fury. He was robbed against helenius and deserved a big fight then but not with the champion. He fought well against vitali I think I had it 8-4. So agaian he deserved a big fight but again not with the champion. Against haye he was straight up twatted. At this point he dont deserve a big fight but he should be rebuilding. Price would be a good fight and one I imagine he'll lose. I'm not sure why you rate chisora this highly. If you were one of the people defending the chisora fight with wlad at the time I can only imagine you're either a closet wlad fan boy or a chisora fan boy. Nothing else makes sense.

 

I wouldn't expect any fighter to stay on the outside and fight Wlads fight. Why would anybody want to do that when the blueprint is out on him. He selects fighters who show up to collect their loser check. What cant you understand about that fact.

The Chisora wasn't due to be made. It WAS made and Wlad pulled out twice. Are you trying to change the facts? What did Wach do to deserve a fight, who did he beat, nobody ever even heard of him. What is your point? Chisora was young and hungry who was prepared to drag Wlad into a slug fest hell untill they dicided not to take the risk. Thats not the behaviour of one of the best boxers in history.

 

Because if they stayed outside their chances is losing increase dramatically because he's one of the best out fighters in history.

Made, signed, talked about I dont give a ****. It was a **** fight when it was first made and it's still a **** fight now. Like I said if you was one of the guys defending it at the time you're a fan boy of one of them. Wach was an equally shite fight totally pointless and adds nothing to his legacy. The only time i can live with shite fights is when they're mandatories other than that i have no time for them.

 

And if Wlad fought inside , his chances of winning would decreace dramatically. What sort of a point is that to make?

What you and I thought of the fight is completely irrelevant. The fight was made and his team pulled him out because he was too much of a risk being an inside pressure fighter.. There is no disputing against that.

 

the point I made is wlad is a great out fighter. You disputed that and I asked who could outbox him from the outside.

No they pulled him out so they could make the fight with haye. A far more worthy opponent. Chisora isn't very good mate I just dont see what you see I guess.

 

I didn't dispute he was good on the outside. I said , i dont expect a fighter to fight his fight. Pay attention.

Chisora was signed more than a year before Haye. They pulled him out because Manny didn't want the fight. Are you trying to re-write history?

 

RING magazine ran an article recently on how they thought Wlad would fare against many of the names you've listed above. They had him losing to most of the names they considered, including Ali, Louis, Frazier, Foreman.

If I can find the mag I'll post up some of what they had to say.

 

red = Wlad

 

So do you agree with my statement he's one of the finest out fighters in history?

I can't tell if you're being serious or not. The fight was **** from day one and it got in the way of negotiations with haye. Infact at the time he was accused of ducking haye on favour of the safer, less experienced and shitter opponent in chisora. History needs not be re-written, what happened, happened.

I was rooting for Chisora at the time but anyone could see it was a woeful mismatch and one I've no idea why you are so in favour of. Especially now!

 

No, i dont agree. His guard can be exploited and countered. It hasn't happened recently because he hasn't fought anybody.

The fight was signed and the stadium in Germany was sold out. You're personal opinion on the matter is meaningless.

 

yeah that makes sense.

Yeah of course it is, but on an internet forum debate between two people our opinions are what we debate. But consider yours equally meaningless sunshine:good

 

Then I agree with RING magazine.

 

Ring Magazine
Louis KO 7
Klitschko decision over Marciano
Klitschko KO 5 Patterson
Liston KO 6 Klitschko
Ali Decision Klitschko
Frazier decision Klitschko
Foreman KO 10 Klitschko
Holmes Decision over Klitschko
Tyson Decision over Klitschko
Lewis KO 10 Klitschko

 

I don't mind some nuthuggery to the fighters of old but often it gets kinda stupid.
Wlad gets criminally underrated.