Who is more powerful- David Tua or George Foreman

I can tell you that I watched George back in 74 punch a 300 pound heavy bag and never before or since seen such power. He would move that bag like a normal hwt hitting a standard bag. You could hear his punches all over the gym. Just bone crushing shots. Hard to imagine a harder punching heavyweight.

 

Were you there at the time?

 

Lewis: knocks out Rahman in four.

Lewis: knocks out Tyson in eight.

Tua: knocks out Ruiz and Moorer combined in under a minute. Try reaching deeper into your head to come up with a comparable example.

Once again I'm asking for examples that prove that whoever you name was a better one punch hitter. If you don't understand that simple point then whatever insults you care to fling at me will fall on deaf ears.

 

But you're the one who is suppose to show me that Tua is not a journeymen Rahman was in his prime and Tyson is an all time great who like Lennox Lewis,was past it.

So because prime Tua knocks out a old man in Moorer and a green Ruiz,he is one of the most hardest punchers because he knocks out a nobody and a rookie? :rofl youre trolling me or a complete idiot.

 

tua knocks out a old man and rookie in under a minute so he must be the hardest puncher of all time.

But byrd takes combos to the head and just steps back and resumes jabbing..byrd must be toughest dude eva!!

Tua never even hurt lennox lewis..but lennox lewis is the greatest tougest fight ever

tua rocks a green rahman but in the rematch against a prime rahman, who took a beating from holyfield and lewis just before this fight,failed to rock him..but rahman turned into the toughest dude eva

 

This guy is so full of ****. I guarantee you that Foreman wasn't moving a 300 pound bag like a standard bag. He had enough trouble "moving" former LHW Gregorio Peralta and never knocked him down in 20 rounds. Oh, but Peralta must have been superhuman, ya see...

 

IBEABUCHI TOOK TUAS SHOT ALL NIGHT LONG...BUT IBEABUCHI IS THE TOUGHEST DUDE EVA


Well look at that, against his toughest competition Tua did NOTHING to resemble "One of the hardest hitters ever" against them.

 

I'm not trying to claim that Tua wasn't a journeyman (though he obviously wasn't). I'm trying to claim that he was one of the hardest punchers ever, which is quite easy to do if you bring up the manner of his knockouts against the fighters he accomplished it against.

However, my debate with you in this thread is at an end, since you seem totally immune to logic, rationality or civilised behaviour.

 

Foreman scares me.

 

Punching power isn't really reliable, if your opponent is in the ring to win and you don't catch him by suprise he will probably eat a lot of shots.

I think Tua his biggest shortcoming was his slow feet.

Being short isn't really a disadvantage if you're stocky but when you're ringcutting lacks and your feet are slow you're just a sitting duck.

Look what happened to Roy Jones, his handspeed is still there but he can't run from shots anymore.

 

Punching power doesn't mean ****, look at the ability to land it.

Guarantee Tua hit harder than George. Look at Tua's beastly, tree trunk legs and his very well thrown left hook. Probably is, it could be completely taken from him. There were fights where he finally found the target and got the knockout, and then there were fights where he didn't.

George was better in this sense, in that his attack was two fisted and constantly coming. He threw a ton of punches. He came forward. He worked different angles. He was relentless, and he beat guys down in a matter of a couple of rounds sometimes. He could also use the danger of his uppercuts to walk in a hook, and vice versa(Both knockdowns in Frazier II). Foreman was the more dangerous fighter.

Seriously, generating raw force doesn't mean very much in this game, contrary to popular belief. We should start discussing he was the more dangerous puncher.

 

Also, protip: Calling a guy an idiot and writing lolol and being sarcastic just makes you look like an *******, SP_Mauler, it doesn't mean you are actually winning an argument. Far from it.

 

Wow, some serious smack talking going on in this thread.


One guy trying to suggest David Tua was a journeyman bum fighter who didn't display credible power?

We have another guy saying Joe Frazier was slow and stupid? (or was it the same guy?)

We have someone else defying logic suggesting that a previous Joe Frazier incarnation would've beat Foreman in ten by KO.

Finally someone else denigrating Frazier's chin.

I can only imagine that this thread is a field day for trolls.

For what it's worth, I don't think any incarnation of Joe Frazier could cope with Foreman, who could've been built to destroy Joe. He was the antidote to Frazier.

I think that Tua is a flawed fighter with devastating power. I reviewed highlights from the Lennox Lewis fight, he never caught him clean, but towards the end of one of the rounds Tua got a piece of Lennox and Lennox was lucky it was the bell - because his eyes gave it all away.

I can't imagine Tua troubling an Ali or Holmes, but for raw power, he's properly up there.

For Foreman v Tua, I see Foreman banging Tua out in a savage way, but if Tua landed it could go the other way. I tend to believe that Foreman is the more powerful fighter, carrying that power in a greater array of shots with more versatility. Hard to quantify though.

Final thoughts are for Earnie Shavers and Joe Frazier.

Shavers, to me, is the most colossal, sickening puncher in the history of boxing. This going by the thoughts of his peers, the footage available and so on - but again, a flawed boxer entirely dependent on that magic.

Joe Frazier - a much much smaller man than Foreman, Tua or Shavers but still displacing big shots with his legendary left hook. For power to weight and size, Joe was a phenomenon - but isn't for comparison here. This being said the size of the fight in the dog was much greater than any of those three men and he out matched them with different qualities (including his fantastic chin) and that's why he's higher in my ATG list of heavyweights. I don't like to see people disrespecting Joe - there's no taste in it, no class at all.

 

Foreman beats all swarming type fighters, that's why Tyson avoided old George.

 

Marciano had to hit a 300 pound bag but you're saying it would be to heavy for Foreman?