What is going to happen to Timothy Bradley....

Beat Witter in his back yard
Beat Holt when he was champ
Took Lamont Peterson's 0
Took Devon Alexander's 0
Took Miguel Vasquez'0
Took Abregu's 0

Who has a better resume at 140 and 147 than that?

 

Ortiz is never going to catch up to him. Too slow and too one dimensional.

 

Why? The only thing he has is power. Bradley's faster, in better shape, and has more dimensions. Not to mention Bradley has a terrific chin and recuperative powers. Ate up that left hook Holt put him down with in the 1st round and walked him down the rest of the fight.

 

You've got to be kidding? Manny caught Bradley plenty...enough to have Bradley on the back pedal the entire fight. Ortiz has much more pop than Manny (Manny's power is his speed/endurance/volume of punches/not 1 punch power).

Also, Ortiz caught Floyd a few times. Yes Floyd doesn't move like he used to. But if Ortiz can get a glove or two on Floyd, I struggle to see how he can't do better with Bradley.

I'm not saying Ortiz beats Bradley. I'm just saying, if they were to fight today, I think Ortiz hurts Bradley. I don't know how Bradley responds to getting caught by a power guy like Ortiz.

Ortiz and Holt have different power shots.

 

im looking forward to it as well

Very few had Khan #2 at 140 prior to the Maidana fight. He was still fresh off his Prescott loss and a win off of Malignaggi and Kotelnik

 

He's a solid fighter who just does not appear to be dominant is all I'm saying. None of these guys mentioned are great fighters, so how do you have him in a razor close fight with Mayweather, who is a great fighter?

How do you have him well above anyone from 147 on down, when he looked lost against Manny Pacquiao not too long ago, tripping over himself like a newborn deer?

Maybe you're right about him. Hell, I like Bradley. But you mean to tell me that the current elite fighters at 140 would not be a challenge to him? What are you basing this on?

He was dropped twice by Holt. He and Devon stunk up the joint. Beat Peterson in a UFC match. This makes him great?

 

1. Prior to Dawson, Andre Ward had only one stoppage in his previous 8 fights, and it was against Shelby Pudwill. Doesn't prove he's feather fisted. No one Bradley fought in that time was on the level of a Pudwill, so, yeah...

2. I scored rounds 1-3 for Bradley, quite clearly, and the remainder all for Pacquiao, also clearly in my eyes to finish with Pacquiao winning 117-111. That said, there were only a few rounds where it was a blowout, which is all I was saying. No need for the "don't know what fight you were watching." I could say the same thing about your breakdown of it, which proves my point. Even if the rounds were clear, they were not blowouts.

 

Manny caught up to him when Bradley stood and traded. When he circled from Pac's left, he controlled the tempo of the fight.

Floyd was walking Ortiz down for stretches in that fight. Bradley's lateral movement is much better than Floyd who operates exclusively in straight lines.

Ortiz isn't really a big puncher though...and Bradley has a tremendous chin.

Ortiz' right hook isn't as powerful as prime Holt's left...and Bradley jumped right up from it. He's too mentally tough and can always adjust. Check the Peterson fight after Peterson was getting it going on the inside. He went on the back foot and completely outclassed him. He does way too many things well for a guy like Ortiz to compete with.

 

How did Devon get to no. 2? Just curious.

And you keep giving me rankings, but are you prepared to say that, hands down, Devon was the second best fighter in the division?

 

and lasted 12 against PAC on bad feet?


Sure, he didn't fight Khan, but that didn't negate the fact that he was lineal at 140

 

That stoppage of Dawson has an asterisk next to it though. Edison Miranda dropped Dawson in sparring during training camp. Dropped him as in like a KO. Miranda's trainer posted on his facebook before the Dawson/Ward fight that Ward was going to annihilate Dawson b/c Dawson is dead at the weight and got KO'd in sparring. Serious, look that **** up.

Ward beats Dawson at 175 too imo, but it's not so one-sided.

 

better claim to it than Khan

 

Not close at all, though? Not even worth seeing Khan/Bradley?

Or how about Bradley/Matthysse? Oh, but Lucas didn't have a high enough Ring ranking at the time.

Do you even see where I'm going? I fear you don't.

 

The only "great" fighters around his weight are Floyd,Manny, and Marquez...everyone else is a level below Bradley, who is a level below them.

Bradley has too many dimensions. He can box, he can pressure, he can jab. He's in great shape to outwork a Floyd and force Floyd to lead. Floyd needs to be set to punch and his defense relies on his opponents to come in straight lines.

He hurt his ankle, which is why he stumbled...even then he was circling away nicely from Pac's straight left and ambushing him very well. He fought a really good fight.

Garcia's feet are too slow, and he's too inactive. Timmy would outmanuever and outwork him.

Matthysse can punch, but he can't outbox Timmy. Bradley could outjab and frustrate him.

Khan would be interesting, but he has absolutely no inside game. Tim could replicate the Peterson fight, except his defense and footwork are way better.

In between those knockdowns, neither of which he was hurt, he was walking Holt down and beating him up to the body. Devon never comes to fight. He comes to hold and whine...The Peterson fight was entertaining, with very little clinching.

 

Would you have liked to have seen the fight, or is the outcome written in stone based on the rankings at the time?