Haye " Im giving Vitali until the end of summer"

Well, he did ask me to write a poem about it!

 

Please explain to me how Haye is the biggest challenge? :huh

The guy won't engage and will have a punch output in the teens for every round. It will be a boring fight. Just like the Valuev, Harrison, and Wlad fights were. And you are openly campaigning to watch something like that? :roflatsch

Hell, a guy like Bryant Jennings would put up more of an effort.

 

yeah gaye beat a guy with a 1-3 record, in his last 4 fights who lost agaisnt injured fighters.
btw. Fury beat an undefeated Chisora:deal

 

I should be done with her by then but no guarantees.

 

Good shaunster.:thumbsup

 

Your on payroll its expected you say that, However my take is all the trash talking the two klits have about Haye, Wlad wasnt exactly entertaining himself in his fight with Haye and I disagree with the scoring the fight wasnt that wide cus neither guy really landed much.

Haye vs Chisora compared to Vitali vs Chisora says it all truth is Vitali and his team know he is older has had injuries which is why Vitali will fight another bum or a fighter not quite ready to step up than take on a boxer mover.

who else is at HW right now Povetkin? who just got his ass beat by Huck?
Wlad but we know Vitali and Wlad will never fight, who else is really there? Mitchell is rematching Banks there is nobody there Chisora been there done that already why not fight Haye you talk **** like your going to do something bad to him but have yet to make the fight happen

 

All those guys saying this fight shouldn't get made: how do you rationalize this thread getting 220+ replies?

 

It is the same !

When we talk PPV market we are talking the US Market. Lennox made over $20 million fighting on HBO PPV

Pacquaio makes crazy money on US ppv


Hatton made big money



It's Wlads style . He was the top of the bill on HBO until that new style emerged and he was on his way like Lewis


Then they dropped them both.

It's apples vs apples I'm afraid, and the states no longer likes Wlads Granny Smiths.

 

This is true - so you believe Haye wants the fight now?
So bearing in mind:
Vitali claimed he wants to fight Haye
Vitali claimed he would KO Haye for his brother
Vitali's manager said Haye and Chisora should fight and then the winner could faces Vitali
It would be Vitali biggest payday ever and a win would be his crowning glory.
- Why isn't this fight happening?

 

Lewis fights on HBO PPV were held in America. Hatton made big money from UK PPV. Wlad did have the shot at being a US PPV fighter but he blew it.

But, tell me a fight that has been held in Europe while being sold as PPV in the US.

 

So Haye refused to engage Audley or Valuev but he is going to transform in to Tyson against Vitali?

He will do what he always does, backpedal, pot shot and generally stink out the joint.

Also mentioning Vitali's past opponents is off base, David already got his payday against Wlad. When you think of the great fighters in the past that have gone through hell to get title shots and people are complaining that Haye, who has literally beat zero ranked contenders at heavy, should just be gifted multiple title shots.

He needs to earn the shot this time. He could cause Vitali a lot of trouble with the right gameplan, i would favor Haye over current Vitali.

 

Yes and Wlad fought many times in America also. He just could not build into a star there because the TV stations dropped him because there was no interest. It's not like he didnt have the chance of Lewis Pacquaio etc
He did- he blew it with his new style. We agree on this.

Hatton made big money on US ppv (im not interested in uk earnings in this convo)
Ricky fought some fights that went box office in America.

Many fights in Europe were PPV in America , usually a shitty channel picking them up due to no real interest from major networks. If you are talking about a massive fight that was on HBO ppv then I cant recall.

But you can't compare Europe, and this is the real difference. In America they pay for the best in the world to fight, thats why the best mexicans, brits europeans and Americans are shown there.

In Europe there has to be a local fighter- one fighter must be based in the host country. Hometown kinda stuff- otherwise there is no main event. It would not sell.

 

Ricky only got on HBO PPV because he was fighting against Mayweather and Pacquiao, who were PPV stalwarts. His other fights, even ones in America were not on PPV. He was never a US PPV fighter in his own right.

The US only has 2-3 PPV attractions at a time - over the last 20 or so years that's easy to follow - Tyson/Holyfield/Lewis, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao and sometimes Cotto.