whats happening with froch ?

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  1. JonnyBGoode

    JonnyBGoode Well-Known Member Full Member

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    OK, so lets pretend you're Kessler, you don't need Froch.

    What are your next moves? Fight some easy fights in Denmark for a handsome pay packet?

    Who else is he going to fight that brings the same legacy and £££ to the table as Froch?
     
  2. BoxingAnalyst

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    He doesn't exactly need him, but to get another great scalp against an improved Froch (IMO) will do wonders for his legacy especially if it's in Froch's backyard, and a nice pile of cash.

    Kessler is a warrior anyway, I'm sure he doesn't want to spend the rest of his career fighting nobodies.

    :deal
     
  3. craney91

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    Oh so because Ward is out that means he is out forever then? You f*cking know deep down that if Hearn wanted that fight next, that could be Froch's next fight. That is fact. Ward has repeatedly said he wants it and in a recent interview at the Amir Khan fight, claimed that they dont want none. And as usual Boxing Anal is here to try and discredit the truth by calling people a troll. :tired What a brainwashed zombie you are!

    You know I'm right. Whether you like it or not, what I said is the truth. Matchroom are going to cram in as many fights as possible before they dare throw Frochy in with Ward again.

    Its all about damage limitations. If they put Froch in with Ward next, they know the risk. But if they keep feeding Froch IBF challengers for a while, they can make money and get a streak together before any rematch. By that time the result of that fight doesnt matter, because he can bow out regardless.

    Thats how boxing works, thats how Matchroom work.

    And by the looks of it they have already brainwashed a few on here.

    Its not hard when they are just a bunch of :tired though is it?
     
  4. fatcity

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    Froch will always lose to Ward and is life and death with Kessler anytime they fight.Without the belt Froch is ****ed and he knows it.He's tough but no world beater and doesn't draw flies in the US,where it really counts($).
     
  5. BoxingAnalyst

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    But your not right though, Ward is injured..why should Froch sit around and wait for 8 months? In the meantime he can fight Kessler, then push for the Ward rematch.
     
  6. Smoggy7188

    Smoggy7188 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Froch/Kessler aint made by monday he is fighting stevensson.
     
  7. craney91

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    I'll give you Kessler, but Stevenson :shock:

    It just stinks of Eddie "IBF route" Hearn, I'd even go as far to say that Bute would be more understandable fight than that. At the end of the day Matchroom want it all their own way now, with Carl going nowhere to fight, the purse bid b*llocks and all this IBF crap (we're seeing the same with Brook)

    Bute was the champ at the time and he came here for that fight, and he is mega popular in Canada, OK he was obliterated, take nothing away from Carl. But Bute's camp leading up to that fight had an injured fighter, and they still proceeded with the fight. Isnt it just right to do that fight in Canada if they cant get Kessler?

    IMO they are trying to get Kessler on the cheap, and lets be honest, Kessler is the pull in that fight. OK Carl went over there for the first fight, and Kessler will be willing to come here for the second, but Matchroom are trying to get it on the cheap so that Froch gets a bigger cut. And its no skin of their back if that fight doesnt happen, they will play it down, because they are obviously looking at the "credible" likes of Mack and Stevenson to come all the way over here to fight this "mega champ" Carl Froch.

    Matchroom want it all their own way now, its about give and take. They can make the Kessler fight tomorrow if they wanted to, and they could make the Ward fight and Wards next fight back if they wanted to.

    But the whole Stevenson "rumor" tells me, they really dont want NONE and zero risk, at least until its right at the end of Froch's career. So by the looks of it they are gonna cram all these fights in between.
     
  8. Taylor2010

    Taylor2010 Arranging chromosome injections for injured boxers Full Member

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    Just heard on the radio (5live) that the Froch Kessler fight is very close to being made at the o2 in May
     
  9. craney91

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    [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/20962213[/url] :good

    I sure hope this is for definite, because that Stevenson fight would have been so bad, I'm talking Yusuf Mack bad.

    Carls had his easy fights now, its time to fight Kessler, maybe rematch Bute, and then fight Andre Ward in one last hurrah.

    That Mack fight was dreadful, from the moment it was announced, to the moment it finished. It was just cringe worthy through out, what was more cringe was the fact that the fans were so easily brainwashed for that fight.

    They'd have been better of going to the darts, after all, they fit into that demographic.

    Yusuf Mack "world class operator because Eddie Hearn told us it was so, and because he was from America" = Justifiable fight for Carl Froch.

    Feed them the BS about the "mandatory challenge" it makes it all alright + the Frochtards will turn up :lol:
     
  10. Taylor2010

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    Cant tell if you're serious?
     
  11. craney91

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    Well he has, Mack, Bute all this "IBF route" b*ull****, then the rumored Adonis Stevenson fight before they released this about Kessler today. We know the game. It's a good job this Kessler fight is happening because its a genuine test. Froch was beginning to be over rated, especially after he was destroyed by Andre Ward.

    At least its a genuine fight and something for him to try and avenge. If Froch ended up fighting Stevenson after that last Mack fight, it would have become a joke, funny thing is, we would have known who was responsible for this IBF route nonsense. Carl Froch could have finished his career fighting IBF mandatory challengers till the end. :lol:

    Good to see Hearn wanting to play with the big boys again now. But lets be honest, this is Kessler, not Ward....less risk and more winnable and they KNOW it.

    Ward will be the last on the line of people they wanna fight and that wont happen until it is virtually unavoidable and at the end of Froch's career. :hey
     
  12. Taylor2010

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    So just Mack then
     
  13. BoxingAnalyst

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    1) Bute can call on the rematch anytime, his team clearly don't want the fight.

    2) How are they trying to get Kessler on the cheap, he made £2 million for the Calzaghe fight in a 50,000 seater stadium, he'll be getting £2 million in a 20,000 seater against Froch...

    3) If Kessler turns down the fight, then Stevenson is there for back up as he is the mandatory challenger, plus there's not much out there at 168 anyway.

    Come at me bro, no homo.
     
  14. ThisIsTheTruth

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    Why did I mention that ?
    It’s only to make you understand why, in my opinion; I believe Mikkel Kessler’s not thrilled with the idea of fighting Carl Froch for a second time.

    ■1) They fought already, and Kessler won.
    ■2) Kessler never did an optional defence of his WBA title; (On the long term, Is a fight against Froch is profitable enough)
    ■3) Economically, Kessler need to think seriously about the opportunity cost in case his scenario goes wrong.
    ■4) The fight has to be done in Manchester UK, not in Nottingham.
    ■5) According the fact that Froch is clearly ducking Stevenson, Kessler know that Froch needs him. Means Kessler can easely request to increase the amount initially proposed of 2 millions to 4 millions with a clear garanty of getting this purse, victory or not…
    ■6) For Kessler, the IBF title has to be on the table with
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    Like the WBC situation, if there’s a Kessler-Froch 2 with both WBA & IBF on the line, I believe the winner will be mandated to fight Canada-based Haitian Adonis Stevenson within 90 days.
    This condition, could be a policy from the IBF governing body.
    So Froch must accept, Kessler must accept & the WBA must accept too.

    The unfortunate thing about this, was that Froch or Kessler could end up bypassing Stevenson a second time if a Froch-Kessler 2 happens, because both fighters wants to fight WBA/WBC super middleweight champion Andre Ward.
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    But Andre Ward is injured and out of the competition for the next 9 months. So they will not be able to maneuver around IBF mandatory challenger Adonis Stevenson for the next 9 month…

    Would Kessler accept the risk to fight Stevenson after Froch, would he ?

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    Because if Kessler accepts the desperate proposal of Eddie Hearn, it will be the equivalent of accepting to face Froch and Stevenson within one interval of 6 months, with a purse discount…

    So Kessler, is it really worth it…
    Carl Froch, stop ducking like a chicken; Adonis Stevenson is Faster ►►►
     
  15. Lilo

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    ^^^
    He does make some good points.