Jones was on the Juice

Like I've already said, if you'd like to classify the fight as a NC, you have every right to do so. Clearly the offense wasn't bad enough for it to be declared as such though, or else it would've been.

 

Was Roy on the juice when he deservedly won a gold medal in the 1988 Olympics?

Its clear from his early days that he was a naturally gifted athlete with tremendous speed and reflexes. He did not become the talent he was overnight with the help of juice like some people want to believe. Those who try to tarnish his whole boxing career, amateur and pro because of one flimsy failed test are the real absolute ****ing disgraces.

 

Yeah, people who think a person who has doubts about him because he failed a drugs test for steroids are the real disgraces here.

I have never known a sport like boxing for having so many PED apologists. Unreal.

 

:deal :bbb

 

Ban boxing altogether, all the ****ers are doing some kind of PED's makes this **** pointless

 

^ this

 

Its literally took me 30 seconds to stop laughing at the sheer cringeworthy fanboy bias in your posting :rofl

- what year do you think PED testing was introduced into american boxing?

- Who was the first american boxer to fail the test for banned steroids and what year was that?





Why do you continue to quote objective sources when the only 2 subjective and reliable sources in the entire matter are the Indiana commissioner and the IBF who clearly state in batthemans subsequent post that they never had any proof Jones took ripped fuel :rofl


now the ring magazine has always been the most cringeworth american hype machine to try and brainwash gullable people like you into believing everything they write but over 10 years after Jones was caught red-handed, check out their latest policy on PED cheats (though its 10 years too late!! :barf).



http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/173769-ring-ratings-update-those-who-fail-drug-tests-are-out

The recent spate of failed drug tests has underscored an obvious – and troubling – problem in boxing.
Thus, THE RING Editorial Board decided it was time to make a strong statement: From now on, any fighter who tests positive for a banned substance will immediately be removed from THE RING Ratings.
That fighter would be reinstated if the testing agency reverses its decision. And he will be allowed to earn his way back into the ratings after any suspension.


Here is the new RING policy:
THE RING will remove from its ratings any rated fighter – including a champion – if such fighter at some point undergoes drug testing (Olympic-style or otherwise) and that fighter tests positve for a banned substance.
In the event that a fighter has undergone testing in which the fighter provides two samples ("A" and "B") and the fighter's "A" and subsequent “B” samples test positive for a banned substance or if his “A” sample tests positive and he waives his right to have the “B” sample tested then the fighter shall immediately be removed from the ratings.

A fighter whose “A” sample tested positive and is awaiting the results of his “B” sample will not be allowed to fight for a championship or rise in the ratings.
A fighter who is removed because of a postitive test will have the opportunity to earn his way back into the ratings after any suspension period is completed.
A fighter who is dropped also may be reinstated if the testing agency subsequently reverses its decision or a court of competent jursidiction finds that the test result was invalid.
This means that Andre Berto, who had been rated No. 3 in the welterweight division, and Lamont Peterson, No. 1 at junior welterweight, have been removed from THE RING Ratings.
Berto’s rematch with Victor Ortiz, scheduled for June 23 in Los Angeles, was canceled after Berto tested positive (both “A” and “B” samples) for the steroid norandrosterone. Peterson tested positive (“A” and “B&#8221 for synthetic testosterone, which scuttled his May 19 rematch with Amir Khan in Las Vegas.
Peterson, who said he had a testosterone pellet implanted for medical reasons, has applied for a license with the Nevada State Athletic Commission and is awaiting a hearing. He must convince the commissioners that the violation was inadvertent.
Berto and Peterson were tested by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.
Cruiserweight Antonio Tarver tested posititive for the steroid drostanolone after he fought to a draw with Lateef Kayode on June 2 in Carson, Calif. The California State Athletic Commission, which conducted that test, suspended Tarver for a year.
However, Tarver will remain in the ratings for now because he has said he will exercise his right to have his “B” sample tested. THE RING will not make a decision on its No. 6-rated 200-pounder until the process has played out.
The decision to drop Peterson elevates Nos. 2 and 3 junior welterweights Amir Khan and Danny Garcia to Nos. 1 and 2. Thus, their fight on Saturday in Las Vegas will be for THE RING 140-pound championship.




Its taken the cringworthy Ring magazine 12 years to grow a pair of balls and basically re-iterate what any real fan of the sport has thought all along.

The difference with regards to you is that you're clearly not a fan of the sport of boxing, you are just a fan of Roy Jones Jnr and every single view of the sport you have comes from a defensive perspective to try and defend your idol, so much so, that you are willing to quote bias objective sources as fact in preference to the only reliable subjective sources (indiana commission and IBF) on the whole matter. In Britain we call that 'someone who cannot see the wood for the trees' :nut

 

Nobody has ever questioned Roys amateur career or the fact that he was an extremely talented and physically gifted athlete.

What people question is the fact that he is a proven cheat who furhter enhanced is performance levels with PEDS.


-Ben Johnson was a talented 100m sprinter but he wasn't the best in the world through natural means

- Lance Armstrong was a talented cyclist but he wasn't the best in the world through natural means

- Roy Jones was a talented boxer but he was a glass jawed cheat, a serial ducker, with no plan B or adaptability, who folded like a lawn chair whenever he faced adversity.

 

Bull****.

Joe was a serial ducker.

Armstrong was on the juice so bad he is never allowed near cycling again and all his accolades have been stripped from him. That man is the disgrace.

Where does Roy work now? When has he been proven a cheat in the last 13 years, or even before that?

 

when has armstrong ever been proven a cheat? :roflatsch


Listen to Chris Byrds take on things


http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2005-05-13/sports/0505130068_1_steroids-byrd-tested-positive



Heavyweight James Toney last month became only the third professional boxer known to have failed a steroid test. But another prominent heavyweight, Chris Byrd, said he believes steroid use in the sport goes far deeper than that.
"I know there's a lot of guys who are doing it," Byrd said in an interview this week. "You can tell by the way they look from fight to fight."

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Byrd, the International Boxing Federation champion, also called for random testing in boxing to bring the sport in line with the Olympics. State boxing commissions test for banned drugs only immediately before or after fights.
"There are certain guys I know who know how to beat the system," he said. "If you had random testing, it might not totally eliminate the problem, but you would cut down on it. You'd see a difference in the appearance of certain guys in the sport."

Byrd's comments came after it was announced Wednesday that Toney tested positive for a steroid after his April 30 victory over World Boxing Association champion John Ruiz at New York's Madison Square Garden. Toney tested positive for nandrolone, said his attorney, Nicholas Kahn.
Citing a violation of its illegal substance policy, the New York State Athletic Commission fined Toney $10,000, suspended him for 90 days pending the results of a retest and declared a no-decision in his fight against Ruiz. Toney is effectively banned from fighting in the United States until he successfully passes the retest, commission chairman Ron Scott Stevens said.
Toney also could face a two-year ban by the WBA, whose rules require that the title be returned to Ruiz.

Mark Ratner, chairman of Nevada's athletic commission, said it wouldn't surprise him if more boxers were using steroids than had been caught.
"I've had a few mixed martial artists test positive for steroids here in [Las Vegas,] but when you look at the amount of pre- and post-fight tests we've done in this state, there have been a minuscule amount of positive tests," he said.
"But I think there will always be a culture of people who will do everything they can to beat the system, and the system will always be one step behind, whether it be in track and field, football, baseball or in boxing."
Byrd said random testing for boxers might come about only if a uniform national governing body were established for the sport. With action taken in the Senate on Monday, that could happen sooner than later.
The Senate voted to establish a federal commission that would impose standardized rules for the sport in the United States. The bill, sponsored by Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, still must be approved by the House.
Toney, 36, has denied that he used steroids, saying his positive test might have been the result of medical treatment.






All that money, all that lapse testing back in 2000, all that knowledge on how to beat they **** poor testing system and Roy Jones still got busted

 

There's a reason the experts call drugs testing IQ testing, and it's because if you're sensible enough you'll pass every time.

That's the facts of the matter. One shitty drugs test after a fight has taken place is not going to catch anyone unless they've either ****ed up their cycle or taken recreational drugs.

 

Where did my avatar go BTW?

 

Envy is a ***** no one will remember the likes of head giver of his agenda ten yrs from now .Most if not all of his peers have a tremendous amount of respect for Jones. If the man was truly a cheat he have no place on a boxing broadcast .I wonder why no one else in the sport has labeled him a cheat except for the homos of team elite ? Like I said envy is a ***** !

 

Why you so mad bro?

Is it because the man you idolise is a proven drugs cheat and if you're 'bible of boxing' Ring magazine had shown an ounce of moral decency and grown a pair of balls 12 years earlier then Roy Jones would have been completely wiped from its ratings for his disgraceful antics :roflatsch

 

What I want to know is how much of an effect holistically steroids would have on a Boxer. Like what would be the difference between a steroid using Jones and a non-steroid Jones?

Is it like Hill Version vs Calzaghe Version? I mean how does it work? There are so many intangibles, I just give up on this issue.