Same way Ruiz didn't catch up with RJJ, Tarver did. This is all on topic, you need standards you can apply across the board when talking who's greater. h2h counts, but not enough to offset the rest of the resumes when there's a solid gap
I'm not Mexican. You can make the same gains by working out in a way you never have before. Your reliance on visual evidence is absurd. If anything Manny looks more different. But you'll keep harping on the same point because you'll say anything to defend Pacquiao in the wake of his most definitive loss at the elite level because you are a rabid fan concerned with little else in the sport. PS, Marquez has always had good abs. Getting better ones doesn't mean PED's. This content is protected
certainly has his number but hasn't performed better against any of their common op n imo lost to barrera
i thought he was on stuff but tbh pacquiao might have been as well. angel heredia is just too suspicious and shouldn't work in sport. boxing's the only sport that hasn't banned him n conte
When I asked you to explain how, you said cause Roy went up to heavy and dropped down, right? Is this it, or there's more? Why doesn't Pac's accumulated punishment count? What's the differentiator for MAB Jones? Marco couldn't even hang with him once.
He performed better against Agapito Sanchez. Most see the Barrera bout as a competitive but clear win. They should fix the testing, first and foremost.
Count for what, some sort of resume points? :rofl I know that's what your driving at, but it's just ridiculous. Bottom line is the two fought four times, and the only decisive victory is KO6, a historical and shocking upset. Pac was not punished, that's just silly. Ring wear, yes, but not accumulated punishment, not even in the close fights with Marquez. Talk all you want about Jones, Barrera and the like.... It's irrelevant to Marquez and Pacquiao. I'm staying on topic, and not rolling in the gutter with you. Like I said, posters like you are ignoring the big picture, a fighters whole resume, both wins and losses, and looking to other Boxers in other situations to make your case.
I did not know greatness was obtained through beating up bigger but stationary punching bags who have seen their better days!
I'm not rolling in the gutter, you'll never see me say a bad word about JMM. You gotta have standards when talking who's greater, can't be a one off which you seem to be pushing. It's not hating at all to say his resume is well behind Pac. Remove Pac from his resume, give me his top 3 wins please.
I'd like to think so. He's going to be hell for his timing. Lora rarely ever gets mentioned these days next to guys that in terms of ability, he had a comparable radar and reflexes to, such as a Benitez or Zapata.
Of course JMM. I dont care about the 8 weight classes against declined opponents or the 2 wins against Morales or beating David Diaz. Manny is entertaining but JMM is by far the better fighter. The fact that Manny had a 4th fight with him when he didnt need to should tell all you need to know.