early? You don't say? according to you Pac fought an in prime atg in morales? According to you when Oscar fought Trindad they were already in prime ATGS. Exposed. Do you realize your ridiculous non-sense yet? or should i keep going? Oh and.. Elite in prime (maybe, maybe not ATG) >>>>>>>>>>>> out of prime, shot fighters (future "ATG")
Trinidad and Oscar will go down as all time greats. An they were both in there prime when they fought. What's not to get :huh Pac fought prime versions of Barrera and Marquez. Morales you could argue was at his tail end
not get? How about the fact that an in prime fighter doesn't get an ATG status you mutt. I guess singarat and Tetamo both beat an "in prime atg" pac huh. like ur example of Saul. ATG is earned not assumed
i've been through this. You ca still look back n careers of all time greats, and determine when there in there prime. I'm not saying they had to have been called one at the time of there prime, But just looking back at **** from now. Weh know who the ATG's are, and we know when there prime was. And floyd didnt fight any!!!!! Seriously refer to my previous post. Everyone else on the board understands this
John, just admit you got no where to go. I thought I've explained myself clearly to you in the past and you still talking non-sense. I'm trying to help. This is a boxing forum. When Trindad beat Oscar he wasn't an all time great nor was Oscar. In prime? Yes not the bull**** you are trying to spin. Nor was Marquez. He wasn't consider a ****ing ATG when he fought Pac. So get real braggin about Pac fought "in prime" ATGS because he didn't. Nobody in the forum will help you now. There are bunch of guillable fools on here but once you break it down to them they know. UNLIKE SOMEBODY!
HOW MANY TIMES TO I HAVE TO SAY IT. They weren't considered an ATG at the time, i agree with you. But you can still look back on someones career, and say he fought ATG's. Sugar Ray Leonard fought ATGS Duran and Hearns, they weren't considered it yet, but looking back at there careers, they are now. So we can look back at floyds career and say, he never fought an ATG in his prime. :nut
Nobody gives a **** when someone holds a win to an unknown to assumed ATGs. If they weren't good or as good before then they are just not. Lets give Singarat a medal for beating Pac.
if you can't see that Pac is an ATG then i can't help you. And he lost because fighters sometimes lose. Its Boxing, **** happens
So i take it Leonards win over Hearns and Duran don't matter because they weren't declared ATG's yet? Durans rising up in weight to defeat Leonard isn't one of the greatest wins of all time, because leonard wasn't an ATG yet?!? atsch
that post was still to disprove your in prime atg non-sense. I know Pac is an ATG. ATG list is all opinion based anyways. My list can be 100 to 1000 or 10. So yes, Pac is actually very high up in my personal ATG list. So all those people who talk about ATGS are just expressing their opinions. I rate wins by how relevant the wins is not by hype.
They were great wins. But he fought people in his weight class and someone above his weight class in Hagler. Is this something that Floyd didn't do? You got people screaming MMA fighters as greatest fighters on the planet and produces an atg list themselves. Are they really THAT GOOD? Depends how much of a nuthugger you are. Both side of opponents were champs and went on becoming champs. Everything else is hype and opinion.