Why is Marquez-Barrera Rarely Brought Up?

I've never scored the fight but it could have gone either way, from what I remember Barrera was winning most rounds of the first half of the fight with JMM winning most of the later rounds.

I'm not sure why it rarely gets a mention it was a ****ing good fight. Must watch it again.

 

That is the only fight I've seen live that looked totally different when I went home and watched it. I saw JMM sweeping the early rounds with a jab that moved Barrera around the ring live, controlling the center, and MAB coming on too little too late. Watching it where I could see that JMM was missing early, I got exactly the opposite impression - that MAB was winning the early rounds. Because of the way you could see him backing up and getting moved around the ring live, you couldn't see that his punches were landing and JMM's weren't as clean as they looked.

There, I thought it was a JMM landslide, but on the TV, I thought it was very very close, maybe even a draw if knockdowns were counted and points weren't deducted.

 

Marquez was anything but the clear winner had it not been for Nady Marquez would have lost ..

 

When you see fights live with good seats you see so much more than you do on tv. You notice all the subtle things that a camera cant catch

 

This fight has a permanent place on my hard drives. One of the best fights i have ever seen.

 

I think scoring it to Barrera is perfectly reasonable, especially if you give him rightful credit for the KD, but definitely not a robbery. Close fight with each guy doing a lot of great work. JMM was definitely pushing for the win a bit more.

 

A difficult fight for me to watch. I can't believe MAB got tired down the stretch at that pace. That simply doesn't happen to MAB.

Good fight. Marquez was the worthy winner.

 

Do you think people sometimes exaggerate MAB's decline in that fight? He gave a good account of himself against Juarez and showed and equal ability to compose himself and fight a disciplined boxing match against Pacquiao in the rematch, doing better than he did in the first bout. I don't think Barrera competed so well because of Marquez's shortcomings but because of Barrera's own quality still retained.

 

Some posters are exaggerating MAB's decline when they say he was done. Marco wasn't done in 07, but he was nowhere near the fighter he was once. Speed look slightly diminished. He seemed unable to get involved in too many heated exchanges without becoming tired. The fact he actually got visibly exhausted late on serves as proof that MAB was either a significantly faded fighter or that he didn't train properly. Either way, JMM was at a better place on the night...physically.

 

Because Marquez got out boxed and was knocked down.

Barrera landed the jab all night on Marquez.

Most people don't score jabs.

 

They do, they just score hard combinations to the head and body more favorably, which is what Marquez landed throughout the second half of the fight.

 

Clean single head shots are equally favorable. If anything, judges deem body shots the least favorable. I've been watching boxing for 20 years.

The judges were corrupt. One scored the fight 119-108.

 

You said "people don't score jabs", but a vast majority scored the fight for Marquez knowing plenty well how to score a fight.

 

:deal

 

JMM hasn't lost nearly as much as Barrera. Not even remotely in the same neighborhood in terms of their physical decline. YOU try again. I'm not going to claim that MAB would wipe him out in his prime, I'm just saying that JMM fought a MAB in serious decline and you can't take much away from it regarding how they'd really match up at their best. This version of MAB can't perform like the real MAB, which is to mix up master boxing with frequent and sudden vicious assaults. If the assault worked well, he could move at that rate for 12 rounds. Old MAB just boxes, watches and waits for opportunities that may or may not come.

That's not slating JMM, I'm a fan of the big three, all of them. It's just a fact.