John L Sullivan vs. Chris Byrd

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Seamus, Mar 13, 2008.


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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Let's pontificate on a fighter we know nothing about versus one who has put us all too sleep.

    (ps. this will be a perfect thread only if nobody responds.)
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Your avatar give me the Fear.

    Sullivan KO24 Byrd.
     
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  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Under modern rules? Byrd would school him. I guess he'd win every round before the referee or Sullivan's corner would stop it.

    Under Sullivan's rules, it'd be an easy decision win for him.
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    What if they fight under a 1920's ruleset?
     
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  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Draw.
     
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  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    No an easy one to call because most of what we know about Sullivan is anecdotal.

    Those who say that it depends upon the rule set are probably not far off tha mark.

    I believe that Sullivan was an all time heavyweight puncher in the mould of Jack Dempsey with terific power and fast hands. He was a good technician by the standards of his day to boot.

    Under his own rule set he would have taken some beating.

    If he was brought along today from his amateur debut by a modern trainer he would probably be the next big thing.
     
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  7. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Back by popular demand!
     
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  8. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hipster: "No way to tell because we don't have any film of Sullivan."
     
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  9. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sullivan by moustafication!
     
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  10. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BE, you horrible, genius *******...you're like that nutbar from beautiful mind.

    Under March 18th, 1972 rules Byrd wins by lefthandedness

    Under Thunderdome rules, Sullivan wins by chainsaw death
     
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  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I have zero recollection of ever even contemplating this match-up.

    It's great when every drunken fart of an idea is preserved in the memory banks here.

    That said, if the odds were especially good, I would put a hundy down on John L.
     
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  12. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I hate popular demand.

    Honestly, I don't think anyone likes it.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Not enough footage.
     
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  14. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Paup Snith by knockout.
     
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Over 15rds Byrd embarasses John L.


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