Joe Louis top5 h2h ?...i don't see it

Because if they fought in the same era, the worst case scenario for Louis is that he looses the first fight, then wins the rematch when Tyson looses his focus. The rubber match is then a masacre.

 

Maybe Tyson doesn't lose his head until after smashing Joe up twice?

 

Height and reach don't mean that much.
Well atleast height doesn't matter.
Being taller means your blood has to be pumped higher = less stamina
Longer bones = less weight for muscle mass
taller also often means longer necks = worse chin

Being tall has advantages and disadvantages.
Unless you're like a 6 foot 2 or 3 featherweight (I got a 125 pound friend who's 6 foot 2), and that's only so effective because it is so unorthodox.
Height isn't a good indicator.

Some reach is always nice, though shorter arms are better for hooks.

 

Louis his biggest disadvantage in the fight against Tyson would be his footspeed.

 

Exactly. Anything could happen between those two and, well, anything could happen with Mike and his personal life/state of mind. Impossible to say how that goes if they somehow shared an era.

I agree with you though. At their peaks, I think Tyson gets there first.

 

Louis is as badly overrated as Marciano is on here. This is a guy who got beat up and knocked out by a cruiserweight in Schmeling. Imagine if this happened to Vlad. Or Tyson. Or Vitali. And so on. You would never hear the end of it. Never in a million years. But because ol' Louis fought in black and white (and in 6 ounce gloves), he's judged differently. It's a whole different standard.

 

He gets overrated at times. Great offense and combinations, technically very proficient, very good boxer. But he was a plodder and took time to set himself, along with a less than great defense, this would cause stylistically bad match ups for him against a fair few fighters that came after him. i mean lets be serious, if Tyson or Wlad were getting their ass handed to them by a middleweight for 95% of the fight can you imagine the **** they would get. Yes Conn was a great but you know the drill. It was also a very weak division during his zenith which complicates matters.

 

I like Bowe, Lewis and the Klitschko brothers over him. Wald more than Vitali.

Louis is light by today's standers, but by know means short. He may not be a masterful backfoot boxer, but is very tactical and patiant. He dose not make a lot of mistakes and can pack a punch. This is a rescipe for secuess in boxing.

His 13th round KO of Conn and 11th round KO of Walcott shows that he's always in a fight.

 

Exactly. He couldn't deal with movement and angles. He had to have his feet set to throw knockout punches. And his power is massively overrated due to the small gloves and level of competition.

 

Tyson would walk through Louis like butter, Tyson could use his power while moving, Louis had to be methodically planted and in position. Joe could be hit and hurt, Mike's defense was very good and his chin was battle tested.

I could see it being over in a few rounds. Mike is closing distance quick as you like and throwing from angles while Joe is still mentally taking his time to set himself in the positions that he was taught in his first boxing class.

 

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Louis fell in love with golfing which hurt his training too.

Only problem with Louis is that Schmeling was already seen as past it and had early losses before.
Though Holyfield was also seen as past it, but great chance that a prime Holyfield wouldn't have fought Tyson as smart as he did.

 

Come on Janitor,

Post prison Tyson got clinch ****ed and exhausted against Holy. Who would prove very capable of sharing the ring with all the super heavies of his era, regardless. Greatest cruiser of all time and multi heavyweight champion.

Vitali did not get systematically beaten down and stopped against Byrd. He quit due to an injury in a fight that he was winning and took no damage. Strange decision but not comparable.

 

So true. Louis lost to every mover he ever fought.