Vasyl Lomachenko' debut without the headgear

What does that even mean? If you're scoring 'points' it means you're landing punches and it's not like Lomachenko throws pitter pat shots.

 

I have. My point is if you outpoint your opponent and you're not throwing shoe shine punches then you are winning that fight, amateur or pro. Lomachenko throws plenty of body shots and has many stoppage victories, he's always well aware of the time in rounds, he knows when to fight every second of a round or when he can cruise.
That was essentially Lomachenko's pro debut so he paced himself and moved through the gears, when the fight was on the other night you were quick to say that Lomachenko wasn't looking good, you obviously have some sort of an agenda. Those rounds were scored pro style and he won every round. When he had Maxwell hurt in round 4 he would've stopped him if the standing 8-count wasn't in effect.
Lomachenko is simply not a point scoring fighter, you talk about him like he's Amir Khan. Lomachenko fights with a pro style, body shots and putting the hurt on.

 

Very well said sir :good
Even compared to someone like Rigondeaux there's a lot of skepticism with Lomachenko, I can't help to think it might be due to skin colour and stereotypes to do with athleticism...

 

Explain Lomachenko's weaknesses then and how Broner can exploit them? The only valid reason for doubting Lomachenko against Broner would be the question mark of Lomachenko over 12 rounds. If you've seen the way Lomachenko trains you wouldn't think he'd ever have any stamina issues. Broner is very good but imo he's more unproven than Lomachenko. Broner has looked poor and has looked good, he's still a prospect really so I don't see why it's so unreasonable. If Broner went and beat Gamboa then that would be something, Broner is more style than substance at this point imo.

 

Better than Pac easily in terms of boxing skills. Variety of punches, balance, footwork, boxing iq then Lomachenko destroys him in every category. Lomachenko just needs the resume now. Pac is an ATG and I respect him for all the tough fighters he's fought but he's hardly a masterful boxer or technician. It's you who doesn't understand boxing, Lomachenko is not undersized and you claimed he's not athletic and doesn't have reflexes You seem to think it's a game of rocks beats scissors. Lomachenko has fought and beaten every style of fighter from every country around the world. Oscar Valdez, the Mexican pro who is getting a lot of hype, Jose Ramirez - the American boxer signed up to Golden Boy, the career boxers from Cuba who fight from a young age and live the sport, the top Russians who beat everybody else in the world, the high performing Britains etc... Lomachenko has fought and beaten them all with his pro style, usually with ease.
Is being stupid on this board a full time job for you? You get blasted for your stupidity wherever you post, regardless of the subject. You need to STFU and learn.

 

Very level-headed post, I disagree with some things but I respect your point of view. I wouldn't think his chin is a problem, with his style we would've found out by now or had some indications during his am career. He did talk about being dropped once in a regional contest before stopping his opponent, he said it was a learning experience that taught him to focus for every second of every round as boxing is an unpredictable sport. If you watch his Olympic bout against Selimov you can see Lomachenko get nailed by a flush overhand left as he's moving in and he doesn't even blink, I have a feeling his chin is of the iron variety.

 

Of course Pac would've blasted that guy out within 3 rounds, weight difference not withstanding.
Lomachenko was feeling his opponent out and taking his time, he's not a headfirst aggressive guy like Pac, he's intelligently aggressive and works on different things in different fights.
Bump this thread in 3 years time when Lomachenko is p4p number 1 :good