Robert Ghost Guerrero Best WW not named Floyd/Manny

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I just want to ask:

    How is that even remotely possible?

    Talk about an oxymoron...
     
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  2. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lmao. yeah. :patsch
     
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  3. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Bradley is better than The Ghost.
     
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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Better, yes, likely.

    But more accomplished and deserving of a higher rank at WW? I don't think so.

    Bradley, 2-0
    UD Abregu
    SD Pacquiao

    Guerrero, 2-0
    UD Aydin
    UD Berto

    I think the Pacquiao fight is a clear defeat (it'd be closer if boxing was scored by overall feel and not by rounds). I think Abregu is clearly the least significant victory of the three "real" victories listed (even if Abregu is underrated).
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Not that I disagree at all with your rankings...

    Just, kinda sounds dumb.
     
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  6. Concrete

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    Guerrero is arguably the best WW. But WW is a weak ass division right nw.

    Bradley has a questionable desicion vs Pac and an unimpressive performance vs Abregu as his WW resume. But his strong Jr WW campaign has a lot of carry over.

    Guerrero has 2 strong perfromances against Berto and Aydin at WW. And had way more exciting fights.

    Would be great to have Guerrero and Bradley fight it out for a shot against Mayweather.
     
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  7. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha I didn't take any offense. I realized what I wrote was simply... idiotic :nut

    Thanks for pointing it out. I missed it!

    I wonder how crappy WW division will be in 3 years time. No Floyd/Manny/JMM.

    Most young prospects have been consumed during the Manny/Floyd build-up. Only Vargas/Ghost remain and Ghost is likely to fight Floyd in May. I don't know where Gary Russell Jr. is fighting these days since he only fights journeymen
     
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  8. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree. Bradley has a way of making every fight he's in terribly boring. And that's without considering he's stupid ****ing headbutt gimmicks.

    Bradley's too feather-fisted to hurt Ghost (or anyone apparently) but Ghost is showing a clear capacity to inflict damage and a chin to absorb, should he need to. I've got Ghost ahead of Tim with fair amount of ease.

    I also think Ghost beats Tim H2H. Very sloppy, boring, clinchy, close UD
     
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  9. Hands of Iron

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  10. Steven.Jackson

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    I've said it before, best fight for Floyd at welterweight is the ghost.
     
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  11. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    'ppreciate the props, HoI
     
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  12. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Guerrero? Not too many. Ortiz, Josesito Lopez, and Maidana have arguments. Marquez as well. My comment wasn't suggesting he's not feasibly a top welterweight, but that the ranking doesn't necessarily correspond to how dangerous he is. People are going on and on about his chin, his heart, he's a southpaw...that's not enough.
     
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  13. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Very simple. Right behind Floyd, Marquez, Manny, and Bradley. At least for now, but he's on a hotstreak and most likely in his prime I wouldn't be surprised if he dethroned anyone of those 4. He's in perfect position to do it. Anyone still think he's a superfeatherweight is sadly mistaken just like Berto found out. Nobody can outbox Floyd 140-154, but they can outwork him like Castillo did. RG all wrong for Floyd.
     
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  14. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
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  15. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The road to floyd is a life and death fight with Berto.:deal

    Berto is not on the same level as bradley So to say the ghost wins is kinda stupid thing to say *****
     
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