Chagaev - Ortiz for interim WBA heavyweight belt

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well Im trying to see a glass half-full here: If the WBA is allowing an interim bout then the Wlad - Povetkin fight must be close to being announced.
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I boxrec'd.

    Nothing official on Chagaev's.

    They have Luis Ortiz #44 in their HW rankings.

    Complete breakdown, here we go. I just learned the ins and outs of a fighters' resume who I previously hadn't.

    19-0, 16 KO's

    Some of his most notable wins from my glance were his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th professional fights against career journeyman Charles Davis (TKO4), Kendrick Releford (UD8.), and Zack Page (TKO8.) in 2010.

    He also beat 46 year old Bert Cooper (TKO2), yes, that Bert Cooper. Luis Pineda (KO6) and Epifanio Mendoza (DQ7) also notable. God, the guys he have fought are some of the best journeyman out there, seriously. Scan their records, it's crazy.

    He's a 6'4" Cuban who has fought everywhere around his native country. 12 times in the US, mostly Florida, 4 times in Dominican Republic, once in Nicaragua, once in Costa Rica, and once in Panama.
     
  3. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Two more worthy chaps fighting for the WBA title. The several holders of this title during the last decade have been very impressive.
     
  4. Grecorussian

    Grecorussian Active Member Full Member

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    Or one of them to be stripped
    If Pov gets stripped or if Wlad - Pov does happen, the interim champion will be upgraded to Regular
    If Wlad gets stripped , we will have Povetkin - Chagaev II
    Nonsense .... :lol:
     
  5. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    oh, great, just what the HW division needs, 3 champions of 1 sanctioning body
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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  7. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    Ortiz was a top HW in Cuba for quite some time before he went pro. I hope this fight goes down because he could make some waves in the pro ranks.

    Tyson Fury has time on his side ... there will be plenty of opportunities for him to progress further.
     
  8. Ultimate Boxing

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    These two guys do not deserve to be fighting for a title.
     
  9. Ultimate Boxing

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    Ortitz's second last fight was a guy making his pro debut. What a joke!
     
  10. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    They should just give everyone a belt, and then the champ unifies one by one.

    Alexander Povetkin is the Alexander Povetkin champion.

    Wlad Klitshcko is the Wlad Klitshcko

    Tyson Fury is the Tyson Fury Champion

    If Wlad Klitshcko beat Alexander Povetkin, then he would be the unifed Wlad Klitshscko/Alexander Povetkin Champion, but not the Tyson Fury champion.

    See how that would work?
     
  11. Ultimate Boxing

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    I have a better idea. Make ONE GOOD sanctioning body and ignore the rest of them.

    So here goes.


    Wlad is the heavyweight champion.

    Vitali is the #1 contender

    Povetkin is the #2 contender

    Since Vitali won't fight Wlad Povetkin is Wlad's next mandatory. If Vitali wanted to fight Wlad and Wlad didn't want to fight Vitali, Wlad would be stripped and Vitali would fight Povetkin to be the next heavyweight champ.
     
  12. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    This is absolutely ridiculous. Would never work in a million years.

    One champion?

    Absurd.
     
  13. Ultimate Boxing

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    Hee hee you're right. Boxing needs at least 4 world champions for every weight class! :lol:
     
  14. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is getting complex.

    From a mathematical point of view, it certainly lacks symmetry.

    Speaking of complex, we could have complex (imaginary, in math lingo) belts.

    We could have the Real Super HW belt, the complex Super HW belt, the Real World HW belt, the complex world HW belt, the Real interim HW belt and the complex interim HW belt. That's six HW titles.

    So if you add the WBC Real HW belt and the WBC interim HW belt (only two from WBC), and toss in the WBO and IBF belts, both of which are real, non-super and non interim (them two organizations aren't pulling their weight here !), you would have ten HW belts, one apiece for every top-10 HW.

    That way, the top ten would never have to face each other to remain 'champions' and could feast on the lesser types (Continental this, that and the other thing).

    We could sure use ChinaHandJoe at the minute to clarify this complexity with his tables, charts and graphs.
     
  15. Kissan

    Kissan I respect box Full Member

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    On a more serious note: I think the WBA fears that Wlad is going to beat Povetkin and therefore takes the "regular" belt. So they made up a new one to not lose a "champion" and give the regular belt to the Chagaev-Ortiz winner