If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo

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  1. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    neither did Sugar Ray Robinson...or pretty much all fighters actually.
     
  2. Richel Hersisia

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    how do you know what people are pacquiao fans?
     
  3. Gander Tasco

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    And how many of these are impressive wins?



    edit : nm I took care of it for you
     
  4. Withwhatsmine

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    If someone says Floyd ducked Pacquiao, I'll ask was Pacquiao in any way at fault, if they say no I'll ask did Pacquiao ever duck anyone, if they say no you have a ******* because he clearly did especially the last 5 years.
     
  5. Concrete

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    That just means that they are all cappalbe of being crictizied one way or another. Just matters the type of criticism. If you say Mayweather could have a better resume then that is legit crictism. Or that Mayweather doesn't have a prime ATG on his resume that would be legit crictism. Now if you try and make it ALL Mayweather's fault for not having those things then thats when you are start heading towards the biased, double standard area.
     
  6. bballchump11

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    the Marquez one is looking better and better
     
  7. JMP

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    ...10-15? Don't be stupid. Actually, just shut the **** up.
     
  8. Gander Tasco

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    mm no . Floyd dragged him up two weight divisions and ducked the catchweight . He gets no credit for that. He had no business fighting him anyway, when he was an established WW and there were plenty of good fights available.
     
  9. Withwhatsmine

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    Does Marquez get credit for the knockout or are you saying steroids? It doesn't count just pathetic.
     
  10. AZ_40

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    top 15
     
  11. bjl12

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    If he defeats both Ghost and Saul, Floyd will indeed wind up among the 15 best boxers to ever put on a pair of gloves.
    Assuming he finishes 45-0 (and hopefully doesn't come out of retirement):
    It should be noted that not only has Floyd won 45 fights, but he dominated the majority of his fights. Dominated. He's unquestionably a master of the craft and is a living, walking, talking example of the sweet science in action.

    Top 15 ATG lock.
     
  12. Doc

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    No but if he beats canelo then Martinez @ 160 I'd rate him top 30 easy.
     
  13. Doc

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    Yes making a lightweight go to 143 then not honoring it and coming in at 147 is the stuff of legends. Gtfo here. Bs win to pad his record, I'd love to see may fight Marquez again at 147 to make it a legit win.
     
  14. Gander Tasco

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    You are truly ******ed. Who has he beaten to deserve to be in the top 15? Name them. Longevity / undefeated is good, but not when you've taken multiple retirements / vacations and only fight once a year. Not to mention avoiding tough threats along the way.
     
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    JMM was #2 PFP at the time of their fight. Considering JMM and Pac are the exact same size, what difference does it make?

    If fighting Pac is okay but JMM isn't (due to size differences) then you have some serious figuring out to do, as the two are the exact same size.

    ***I'm only stating that if you believe the JMM fight was a bad fight BUT Pac fight would've been acceptable, then you're a moron. I'm not saying the size difference didn't matter. Although clearly Floyd beats JMM at a neutral weight also. Styles make fights pacturds, not steroids or filipino buboys***