Breaking down Salido-Garcia through the lens of Garcia-Barros & Salido-Haya

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  1. kirk

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    Well the way I see it man is, I think Salido will win some rounds with his activity and pressure, but I think Garcia will improve on his performence against Barros, and up his game here. So I think the first round is a toss up, I think the 2nd round Salido starts to put in some good work, wins the round. This is the trend in 3rd and 4th, but somewhere in the middle rounds I think Garcia catches Salido with a sharp punch, and puts him down.... then proceeds to win that round.

    Thats when the fight would get interesting. If Salido goes into warrior mode, I think he will wind up getting caught again, and put down again (I see this happening a few times) If he stays composed, as is the Salido way.... I see Garcia slowly starting to edge the rounds based off of cleaner punching, and hurting Salido a few more times maybe.

    In the end I expect Garcia to win the fight due to a few knockdowns and comfortable judging in his favor (I dont think he will need it, but I think the judges will ensure a close decision goes to Garcia)

    I think Garcias sharp, accurate punches will be too much for the old Salido to stand up to, and I see him getting hurt and dropped in between having good rounds, which by the end sees him behind on the cards and getting an L.

    However,

    * I am basing this on I think the Lopez fight was Salidos real last hurrah. That fight was hard on him and I just dont think he will return to that form again.
    * I could be overestimating Garcias power
    * I could be underestimating Salidos ability to box with Garcia without taking those fight changing shots.
    * Maybe the judges will be more honest then I think, and Salido does have a chance to win a close fight, if its close and he deserves it.

    We will see though, can not wait for this fight. I will be rooting hardcore for Salido here.

    Just imo
     
  2. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Awesome read...as always.
    Going to go with the younger, fresher fighter. Salido...you have to really appreciate him as a boxing fan. But I think his style of attriction warfare is his undoing this time. I like Mickey by wide UD or stoppage past 10. Garcia looks very sharp with those under/over right hands and is always following up with the left hook. the Kid is ready!
     
  3. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I still stand behind that statement. Mikeys jab is a thing of beauty. Quick, precise and has some real power behind it. Not only do you have to worry about what the jab is setting up. You actually have to worry about getting caught with it flush.
     
  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Thanks man, those words mean a lot. Happy to join, hope to continue playing!

    Very fair prediction Kirk. I think you point out something very poignant (whether you intended to or not), which is that Mikeys success hinges a lot on being able to catch Salido with at least one good shot in the bout. Salido is likely to bank rounds on pressure as the fight wears on, and while Mikey's a solid boxer, It's hard to see him just playing matador the whole fight. It's a reason I highlighted Mikey's left hook; it's his best bet on catching Salido coming in. From there, he can take control as a boxer-puncher with much more respect to command.

    Those last variables you identified really are question marks. Will the judges favor Garcia based on his rising stock? Is Salido getting older? (Though the Moises Gutierrez fight suggests maybe not yet)...How good is Garcia's power against Salido's chin? And how well can Salido jab with Mikey? All very enticing questions. I'm getting more and more excited as the bout draws near.

    Oh for real? That's a pretty good fight.

    Thanks for reading and posting. By the war of attrition, you mean he'll be too reckless coming in, or too worn from past battles to tough out another Lopez-like victory?

    Fair enough, he does have a great jab, I just haven't seen him pump it out a whole lot or use it against elite competition. It's a good point that by itself it's a powerful weapon, and what comes behind it just makes it even more concerning when he gets it going.

    But I ask again, did you see the Barros fight? He was jabbing with Mikey and rendering his jab almost useless as he pushed him back.
     
  5. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Finally read and can respond :lol:. If Garcia can get Salido's respect with a couple good shots and slow his attack some, I think Garcia takes it. If Salido can take his shots without too much trouble I see a long night for Garcia being overpowered, outgunned and outworked.

    Need to see more Garcia to put forth an actual prediction.. :oops:
     
  6. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    11:02, 11:07, 16:36, 18:04, 18:49, are all the types of shots I think Salido would have success with against Mikey. Once a fighter gets past his jab, it seems landing over the top isn't the hardest thing to pull off. To Mikey's credit, his control of distance and guard have made it very hard for any fighter to land cleanly thus far.

    I think Salido would do well early to counter Mikey, throwing with him, and capitalizing on the time he takes to reset with aggression. Salido's defense coming forward is very good and he'd do well to emphasize his waist movement.

    Here, at 18:49, Concepcion catches Garcia pretty off balance with a small step to the left and a left hook up top right as Garcia goes for a left to the body:

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  7. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Agree about Bogo's threads, he's a very knowledgable guy, and is willing to debate with respect.
     
  8. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Excellent post!
     
  9. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Thanks for checking it out. The Concepcion fight I just posted is a real good representation of Mikey's style, though obviously I picked Barrios because of some of the telling signs I noticed. There's not much that even begins to tell you how he'd deal with someone like Salido on the inside.

    Thanks Reppin. We need more of that around here.

    :thumbsup
     
  10. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Time for me to study up :bbb
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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  12. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes I saw the Barros fight. I think that just had to do with Garcia under estimating him. Barros is underrated himself. he went 12 with Gamboa and is a former world champion. Once Mikey saw he gave up some rounds he turned it up and finished him quick. Plus I think Barros has a much better jab than Salido so I do not see that being relevant to this fight.

    Everyone that has felt Mikeys power has eiher ran or turned their offense down. Salido unfortunately wont know how to do that and will be his undoing.
     
  13. Stevenson#1

    Stevenson#1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Salido is gonna take Garcia to school .
     
  14. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    You really think Barros has a better jab? Can't say I agree. But Mikey's power is going to be his key. The trick is landing first.

    Like I said, his best bet is to side-step outside of the looping right as Salido leans into it, and land his left hand. If I'm not mistaken, Lopez did the same thing out of a southpaw stance, side-stepping Salido's right hand. Siri often steps into it, setting himself up. The question of course is whether Mikey doesn't get hit first and still manages to land that bomb, and once he does, to follow up on it. His stiff upper body needs work IMO.
     
  15. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea the dude is underrated man. Salido really does not use the jab much though as he doesnt need to with his ducking movements to cover distance. I want to see what a Salido right hand will do to Mikey. He better not get shaken by it or he will be in trouble.