Did Arguello really spark Legra in the 1st round?/Did Marcel cheat Arguello?

Or is his then trainer getting things a bit muddled?

From the posthumous Arguello biography;

Do we have a report that Arguello stopped Legra in the 1st? Apologies but I didn't renew my newspaperarchive subscription this year. I've got footage of bouts listed as 'KO' before and found them to sometimes be erroneously listed, with the fighter actually being pulled out between rounds.

By the way the same guy is also quoted later on as saying Marcel didn't make the weight for his defence against Alexis...but from what I can gather he wasn't there and is telling it second hand. EDIT: Apparently he was in Panama as he threw Alexis' trainer out in the mid-rounds and took over...billy bull**** perhaps?? HOWEVER Arguello weighing in at 122 has always seemed a bit suspect to me, and with Marcel fighting at super feather around this time and this being his last fight....where the scales a bit dodge? If Marcel was 129-130 that would make Arguello 126 or so, which seems plausible actually.

The book is very biased from what I've read, but it does say that Marcel quit boxing due to his Mum asking him to. Take it with a pinch of salt but it's as plausible an explanation as we've heard, she musta' just wanted to see his 5'7 ass give basketball another shot :-(

 

A few interesting (can't see footnotes listed so again, take 'em with as much as you want) tidbits on Marcel;

Was offered either Olivares as a mando', or a rematch with Spider Nemoto for $150,000 in Japan to come out of retirement. Dunno' where this has come from but Nemoto said after their first fight, the only time he was stopped I think, can't be arsed to check his boxrec page even though I'm on the page about his fight with Marcel

""I felt that his punches were very powerful, the hardest I ever felt. I felt like I was fighting a heavyweight." -Shig Nemoto (from Boxrec, don't remember this being fleshed out before would like it if the person that did it had listed the f'n source!)

Anyway, shows lora that Marcel was also Naz-esque in his ability to crush

Marcel's under performing in the middle rounds was an attempt by him to throw the fight, something he refutes. A non-starter this, you can see from the fight this man was never trying to throw the fight, not by getting stopped or by losing on the cards.

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Anyway, Nemoto did later go the 15 with Pedroza, sorry it skits out towards the end

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The legend rayrobinson333 also came up with a few fights of Nemoto on youtube, be sure to check 'em out if you care to.

Marcel's trainer, Ramon Dossman, was hired as Arguello's trainer for the few bouts leading up to Olivares.

 

Whoa! If it is him maybe I've just a section that was biased and the whole thing might be very even handed. Just that the account of the Marcel fight seemed to keep dropping insurmountable barriers in front of Alexis and had Marcel putting his feet up with a cup of tea...I thought, oh, it's one of those but it's not shocking, will probably get it. You know the characters that crop up in boxing books

'I heard about it from Louie, he was with the fighter...he's down there, covered in snow and **** and everybody but him is allowed to warm their hands in the fire. The Champ was floating past in a toasty blimp wearing a dressing gown.'

That ex-trainer came across a bit like that.

 

You on a phone? **** outta' luck mush.

And LittleRed ever hear of Olivares, around the time of the Arguello fight, being on everyone's list of greatest featherweights? First I've ever heard anyone mention it.

 

There might be a round missing, can't remember, but pretty sure that's everything out there of it

 

'Cause since the server upgrade I get BORKED more often than not when viewing on my phone.

Only jokin', I'm looking over your shoulder.

 

Delete misread

 

Yeah, but those were the official weights. If Marcel was weighing a bit over it would make sense if it was about 4lbs.