Was Calzaghe's masterclass V Roy Jones the most . . . . . . .

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  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol::lol: You do know that Devalle was al long time sparring partner of Jones ..Its funny but how did that fight turn out in the end ?
     
  2. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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  3. ELECTRIC GURU

    ELECTRIC GURU Active Member Full Member

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    You mean Jones got his poor punch resistance exposed by a sparring partner? That kinda makes sense, Del Valle had probably exposed Roy's chin in training before and had the confidence to expose his deficiency in a genuine professional match up.
     
  4. The Bane

    The Bane Active Member Full Member

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    Such a great fight, Calzaghe making Roy look stupid and taunting him. Roy got burnt out that night by the Welsh dragon.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you trolling or being serious, because you didn't seem to be yesterday on the other thread.

    A great fight? How?

    Roy got burnt?

    Roy was DOMINATED and knocked COLD, FOUR YEARS EARLIER by Johnson.

    Roy was 9 weeks from being 40.

    Joe had dismissed him as a threat TWICE before the fight.

    All the above are cold hard facts.

    The fight was a joke!
     
  6. ELECTRIC GURU

    ELECTRIC GURU Active Member Full Member

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    Was definitely a severely underated performance, I think the reason that so many respected figures in the boxing fraternity predicted Jones would win was because

    - Joe was 36 himself and constantly saying how is motivation to carry on fighting / training had gone - Big danger warning sign

    - Joe's severe hand troubles had seen him forced to adapt his style from powerfull slugger into fragile handed boxer

    - Experts knew that despite Jones poor chin, Calzaghe's brittle hands ment that there was no chance Calzaghe would knock Jones out

    - Experts knew that this would be purely a match up of boxing skills with the fighter with greater talent, adaptability, and ring IQ coming out on top

    - they also knew that Jones was now fully adapted back down to the weight and that this was only Calzaghe's 2nd fight at 175

    - Experts also realised that Calzaghe was having to deal with all the disadvantages that come with fighting on foreign soil




    Also for Joe to be brutally knocked down in the 1st round, it really does add to the performance when you can overcome all these obstacles and then put on such an outstanding exhabition of boxing.
     
  7. The Bane

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    OK, Joe wasn't exactly in his prime either, he was having hand problems.... You say Calzaghe dismissed Jones? Then why did Jones avoid Calzaghe and move up to heavyweight and fight Ruiz? Why are you claiming what you write are cold hard facts, when in reality it is purely your opinion?

    It really doesn't matter when they fought, nobody could knock out Joe and nobody could handle Joe's insane workrate. At any point when the fight happens Joe would have walked down Jones and landed shot after shot at different angles and won on a UD. Yes, Calzaghe lacked power but this is boxing not MMA. Joe was a clever guy who did what he had to win which was throw 100+ punches a round and outland and frustrate the hell out of his opponent's. Do you honestly think Jones would KO Joe, theres not a bats chance in hell. Jones would have met his match and lost a decision, end off. Yes this is my opinion and it is not a fact as the fight did not take place when both fighters were in their prime. :patsch
     
  8. Imperial1

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    Again how did the fight turn out after the KD ?Funny I see no mention of that .
     
  9. Mind Reader

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    You really can't answer that question yourself? Jones didn't "avoid" anyone by moving up and fighting a 230 lb HW champ, he was chasing history, and cementing his legacy as an ATG.

    And Joe Calzaghe throwing 100 punches a round would be his undoing against Prime Jones... He would take too much punishment.. styles make fights, Prime Roy is all wrong for Joe.. Roy was faster, with more power.. I really feel like prime Roy was on another level than Joe, who is a great fighter, but he is not as good as Prime Jones, just a good old eye test and common sense should be all you need.
     
  10. Mind Reader

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    Getting knocked down and recovering to win the fight is only a good thing if you are Calzaghe.:lol::patsch

    Lou DelVaulle >>>2008 Roy Jones
     
  11. Imperial1

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    Jones wold have met is match with Joe ?:lol: Club fighters put Joe on the deck , a prime Jones beats the snot out of him .An old shot Jones managed to drop a peak Joe yet a young one couldn't .There is a reason why Joe waited for RJJ to lose a few steps before he grew a set and actually got in the ring with him!


    He wanted nothing to do with Roy when he was atop of his game that's why he waited and waited ...And this is not opinion that is fact !
     
  12. conraddobler

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    Senchenko's recent gorgeous, curly-cued masterpiece versus prime Ricky Hatton was a glorious display of boxing skills against a fighter at the peak of his skills.
     
  13. Mind Reader

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    bailey the other day actually used Roy being ahead on one score card before being put to sleep by Lebedev as to validate Joe's victory over Roy..Talk about pathetic.:lol::patsch
     
  14. Beouche

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    :clap: :clap: :clap:

    scintillating post Guru
     
  15. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    A little stats I just added up.. At work bored as hell..

    At the time when Joe and Roy fought

    Roy Jones Age 39

    weight progression 154-160-168-175-HW-175

    aprrox rounds fought 364

    Joe Calzaghe Age 36

    weight progression 168-175

    aprrox rounds fought 260

    Not only was Joe 3 years younger, but he had fought way less rounds and his weight progression only covered 2 weight classes.. Roy was older, his body clearly had way more miles on it... He had fought nearly 100 more rounds as well...

    Joe was by far the fresher fighter, and when you look at those numbers, more than the 3 years age difference seperated them... Roy was shot to bits, not on an elite level anymore.. Anyone that argues that needs to take a pill, and come back to reality... Acting as if Joe was the faded one is delusional at best.