The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    1. Alvarez
    2. Trout
    3. Bradley
    4. Guerrero
    5. JMM II
    6. Pacquiao

    There really is a pecking order that's pretty cut and dry. Don't know how anybody could disagree. Guerrero is NOT a bad fight.
     
  2. Sweet-D-Willy

    Sweet-D-Willy Tha Realest Full Member

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  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Everybody just wants him to lose, so they want him to fight Sergio or Wlodarczyk, somebody like that.
     
  4. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty well spot on.

    Trout at 2 is purist talk as the fight would be a dud and wouldn't attract the casuals but it's certainly one of the biggest tests out there for Floyd.
     
  5. bfaison

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    He still holds the 147 wbc belt Sulimon wont strip him, and Guerrero is holding the wbc interim and has since he snatched it from Aydin who was Floyd's mandatory for a while before then.
     
  6. bfaison

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    Agreed. That for me would be a pick-em fight, Trout is so naturally big.
     
  7. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The whole idea of pound for pound is judging fighters and their skills at lower weights and how they would fare against bigger opposition.

    Guerrero was a lightweight until last year and jumped two classes and beat two legitimate WW contenders.

    That warrants P4P consideration no matter the hate you have for Floyd.
     
  8. bfaison

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    THANK YOU
    By P4P definition one of the qualifiers for being a P4Per is showing the ability to fight guys bigger than you (or smaller if you can go there). This is how Floyd did it, Manny, etc and this is why I dont rate heavyweights in the p4p they can't display this ability.
     
  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Why would you want to see Mayweather fight someone who lost his last two fights? The most recent by KO, the other even if you say was a robbery was two a guy who was hand picked for his preceved weakness of lacking power. At Pacquiao's welterweight peak the only advantage of a Pacquiao fight over a Guerrero fight was Pacquiao's name. Right now Mayweather/Guerrero is the better fight.

    2. Selcuk Aydin is a decent Europan fighter and Andre Berto who had won the IBF welterweight championship in his previous bout. Alow me to point out that while Berto might not be the most talanted boxer in the world. He came in with only one loss in a very close fight to Victor Ortiz. The only other oppoent to ever really chalange him was Luis Collazo. In other words Guerrero is comming off of two good wins. Outside of Marquez, Bradley and of course Maweather there isn't a better welterweight than Guerrero. It's only setteling if you can clone Ray Leonard or Robinson.

    3. Yes in a perffict world The Match up would be Mayweather/Bradley. However the fact that they are with rival promotions makes the fight next to imposible to fight. Boxing is also a bussness, and this is one of the down sides. While there may not be any top 25 ATG canadates on Mayweather's resume he fights and more importantly beats very good oppoistion durring high points in their careers. Unlike Pacquiao he has not made a career by beating the used to be's and the never would be's.

    4. Yes beating Bradley and the Alvarez/Trout (assuming that fight happens) will move him up the ATG rankings more than Guerrero than the Alvarez/Trout winner would, bit it would still be 2 very good wins. Unless Pacquiao beats someone who isn't a used to be or a never will be by convincing fashion. There's no reason for Mayweather to bother with him unless he wants what the fight would have been from day one. An easy paycheck.

    Mayweather/Guerrrero is far from a tragedy. It's a fight between two reinging world champions. One who has held a championship since 1998 and the other since 2006. Also allow me to point out that Gamaliel Diaz the guy that Guerrero lost two back in 2005 is the current WBC super featherweight champion. Guerrero may not be the perfect oppoent, but he's one of the better choices.
     
  10. MVC

    MVC Boxing Junkie banned

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    :think

    Discuss.
     
  11. MVC

    MVC Boxing Junkie banned

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    :huh

    hahahahhhahaha

    :tong NO
     
  12. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    any version of floyd beats any version of manny
     
  13. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's between:

    Canelo
    Ghost
    JMM
    Bradley
    pac

    I cannot think of any other fighter who is remotely in contention for fighting Floyd.

    *****Anyone remember Roger Mayweather being interviewed this past fall? He said Floyd fights Bradley/pac before hanging em' up. Might we see that Bradley fight now??
     
  14. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yep But thats the only version of Floyd i can even see stopping Pac, but like i always said about that fight Floyd clear UD
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I could see a competitive decision either way. At welter, I think Manny is more versatile and Floyd is a bit better situated in his guard, although 140 is probably what I'd point to in terms of Floyd's absolute peak. Great reflexes and footwork, and a matured defensive responsibility mixed in with the offensive brilliance that defined his early career.
     
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