Sergiy Dzinziruk vs. Brian Vera, tonight at 9pm EST on ESPN2 FNF

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    This is the first defense of Vera's WBO North American middleweight title, which he took in the Mora rematch.

    At stake could be the bigger prize of landing a payday against Kid Chocolate. Vera is the #2 contender. The WBO for some reason has Dzinziruk still ranked at light middleweight (#11) despite his not having weighed in at the 154 limit in almost three years. :? Presumably beating Vera would place him in the MW top 10, close to Vera's current spot.

    Vera outworked Mora in their rematch, but there was some mild controversy as with his SD over Mora the year before. Some felt Mora "out-boxed" Vera, but personally I had Vera beating him comfortably in both 2011 and 2012. Sure, he chucked and missed a lot, but when he did land it was more effective than what little Mora threw back at him between spoiling. :conf

    Dzinziruk was a fantastic light middleweight, once upon a time. I remarked a few years ago his jab was one of the p4p best in the sport. Then he moved up, got battered by Martinez, and hasn't been the same since. He looked positively hideous in his draw with the overweight Jonathan "Mantequilla" Gonzalez last September.

    Yesterday's weigh-in:
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    A look at their last two performances:

    Brian Vera vs. Sergio Mora II:
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    Sergiy Dzinziruk vs. Jonathan Gonzalez:
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    Who you got? (it's too late for a poll)
     
  2. lllegion

    lllegion Active Member Full Member

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    Dzin should win by boxing skill alone... but still unsure about him at MW.
    Vera ain't in Texas, so no gifts
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    :roll: Which gifts would those be?

    He legitimately beat Mora twice. :good

    ...and I'm normally the last guy to reward ineffective aggression over pure boxing, but neither time was Mora the more effective worker.
     
  4. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Good fight.

    This is Dzins last shot really, one more loss and his career is pretty mkuch over. and Vera is no pushover
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    It goes both ways to be honest. Vera is 31 so his career is coming to an end as well.


    I think Vera will win but i would not bank on it.
     
  6. patscorpio

    patscorpio Active Member Full Member

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    should be a good scrap:!:
     
  7. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I look at it like this. Vera doesn't have to fight a perfect fight.
    Dzin can't hurt vera, and the gonzales fight is a pretty good barometer
    of how this fight will go. Dzin will have to jab, turn and fire the straight
    left all night without letting vera turn it into a fight. I don't think that will
    happen. dzin isn't a middleweight and Vera is a big one. Dzin is a better
    boxer who doesn't have a dangerous punch arsenal. Will sergei be able
    to take the unrelenting pressure from a guy who has a potential world
    title shot if he wins? Hmmm. I'm going with a Brain Vera win tonight.

    Dzin needed to stay at 154.
     
  8. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Dzinziruk should win this fight on paper...
    Then again I watched Mora beat Vera in the rematch & come out with an "L".
    (Obviously a hometown decision)

    Vcash: I'm pulling for Vera.
    Head: Dzinziruk
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    :nono

    Mora didn't do anywhere near enough to counteract the # of touches Vera got in, even if Vera had to miss a boatload to get them. Vera also rocked Mora a few times in both meetings despite the latter employing generally solid defense and blocking, ducking, or squeezing inside to clinch through a majority of Vera's bombardments. It was simply too much of a disparity. If one guy misses a thousand but lands 500 and the other lands 200 of 400 and is winding up less power to boot, the heavier handed and more industrious guy with the larger tally of connects takes it. Case closed.

    Look - I'm ordinarily a huge proponent of acccuracy/percentage over sheer workrate, but in this particular case Vera threw & landed more than enough to overshadow Mora's work in most rounds.

    People treating Vera vs. Mora I & II as robberies need to get a grip. Abril vs. Rios they were not. (despite featuring the same dynamic: defensive minded counter-punching ugly spoiler vs. busy but largely ineffective aggressor)
     
  10. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    ^^Agree to disagree sir. (On Mora/Vera II) :good
     
  11. VBOX

    VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

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    Sergei is not gonna get it done with a jab alone, and his strong hand glued to the side of his head. Unless Sergei fires that thing like a piston and has some good movement going on, I am taking Vera.

    Can't see it going any other way to be honest, but this is boxing and it get's settled in the ring not on paper.
     
  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Pulling for Dzin because I of my picks, but this is going to be a pretty good scrap. :bbb
     
  13. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    It's tough, Dizzy didn't look too well against an overweight Gonzalez. But surely he was a bit rusty.

    In his prime Dizzy carried a very sharp jab, basic fundamentals drove him to victory. If Vera roughs him up and overpowers him though I am unsure if he is versitile enough to overcome and get himself back on track.

    I don't think I'll make a pick on this one.
     
  14. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good fight especially for ESPN. Its a pretty even match up and you could make a good case for either guy. I think I'd lean towards Dzinziruk to win but its a 50/50 fight and Vera's not afraid to pull an upset.