Roy Jones Jr. [Superman]

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  1. Prince.

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    Happy birthday roy.
     
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  3. Loudon

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    Not bad after a game of basketball eh? Ha!
     
  4. Prince.

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    VH: Well, Dawson and Scully seem to have a really good relationship. I mean, they talk about it openly. But I do think Scully is leery of the strength coach. He is just not saying anything. I mean, come on, he doesn’t want to rock the boat.
    RM: What do you mean?
    VH: I mean, look, I am a trainer just like he is a trainer.
    RM: Yeah.
    VH: I’ll be honest with you. If I walked in the situation he walked into, I’d be very careful about rocking the boat too.
    RM: I hear you.
    VH: You know he walked in a great situation. And that is what we work for as trainers, we work hard and thrive to get a world-class fighter. So, if you get hired in that situation you don’t want to rock the boat. And I think Scully went about it the right way. But I also think he is very leery. He does not completely trust the strength coach. And I wouldn’t trust the situation either. But let’s not forget that the strength coach is coming in with credentials. He is a Mackie Shilstone disciple, who has a reputation for working with boxers. But I remember something Roy Jones told me. He said, “Mackie can put the weight on but he couldn’t take it off.” Usually when you have a strength and condition guy they are putting on weight as opposed to taking it off. There have been a lot of examples of fighters using strength coach unsuccessfully, from Bradley’s ankles, to Pacquiao’s cramps, to Khan’s inability to recover from a neck shot, even when Oscar took that weight off to fight Pacquiao. So again, there is real fine line. But like I said, I think it is the trainer’s job to strengthen his fighter.
    RM: And Scully doesn’t know?
    VH: I don’t know. That’s Chad’s choice. I’m sure that Scully knows quite a bit. And I’m sure that he is concerned. I have heard him say several times in interviews that he asks the strength coach if Chad will be ready, and he says the guy (strength coach) assures him that Chad will make the weight with no problem and he is going to be ripped. But the fact that he needs reassurance shows why there’s a concern. Do you follow me?
    RM: Yes. I hear you, because I have seen the way you work with Andre. It is like you are building a weapon, and you want to know everything that is going into that weapon. You don’t want anyone intruding your project. But with Dawson, Scully, and the strength coach there might be an inconsistent message right?
    VH: Exactly.
     
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    Hi Prince,

    thanks for the great thread!

    Who's Virgil being interviewed by?

    I've never heard Roy say that about Mackie before, but I was always baffled as to why he didn't hire him to come back for Tarver.

    Coach Merk says that Roy left His Ruiz weight on for a while, in the hope of getting the Tyson fight. Then when it didn't come off, he then had to take the weight off quick for Tarver.

    They took it off with no expert help, and apparently Roy just ran it off.

    I've been told that when he dropped from nearly 200 - 175, around 13-14 pounds of that weight, was actual muscle. He burnt away his muscle fibres at nearly 35, after 50 fights.

    But then after the weight was off, he re hired Mackie for Tarver II. It didn't make sense to me. Why did he need Mackie for the rematch? I can only assume that it gave him a boost psychologically.

    He should never have gone back down for Tarver like that.


    Regards, Loudon.
     
  6. Prince.

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    I can't remember who was interviewing Virgil Hunter. But i agree with your points 100%.
     
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    “The combination that I hit Reggie Johnson with. A left hook, right hand. When you hit somebody with a left hand, their head will turn to your right and when you hit somebody with a right hand then their head will go straight back or to your left. Those punches were so quick that his head turned to his left from the left hook and the right hand!” laughs Jones. “Amazingly fast! You won’t ever see that again. Nobody’s fast enough to do it. To hit a guy so fast with both hands…….I made his head turn in the same direction twice it was so quick! It was the fastest combination of all time.”

    In June of 1999 Jones became the first undisputed light heavyweight champ since 1985 (when Michael Spinks relinquished that distinction to fight at the heavyweight level). to unify the belts, Jones easily overwhelmed International Boxing Federation (IBF) belt-holder Reggie Johnson in a unanimous decision, with Johnson bleeding heavily down several times, and in trouble the entire fight. At one point Jones looked over at Michael Jordan in the front rows and yelled, "Watched this!" He tattooed Johnson with a series of blows too rapid to see clearly even on slow-motion replay.
     
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    “The night I beat James Toney (UD12 November 1994) and the night I beat John Ruiz (UD12 March 2003) I was the ultimate Roy Jones” he says. “Both of those nights I was awesome. Nobody would have beaten me on either one of those nights.”

    “My favourite night was actually the Olympic final when I beat the Korean” he states. “That was my favourite night because nobody expected me to win a gold medal. [Jones actually took the silver medal after his opponent Park Si was awarded one of the most scandalous decisions in boxing history. Jones – and every sane boxing fan on the planet - sees the bout as a victory]. It was an exceptional situation to set that standard, win gold and let the kids know that just because you’re from Pensacola, Florida doesn’t mean you can’t win. That wasn’t about doing it for myself or for money. I was representing my country and it doesn’t get any bigger than that.”
     
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    “Fighting at home was something new for me” he says. “Pensacola fans didn’t have professional basketball, football or baseball teams at the time. All they had was me to bring the attention of a worldwide sports audience to Pensacola. There was always a wonderful atmosphere and it was one of the best times of my life.”
     
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    “I did that because if God gave me a talent, then I’m gonna use that talent to the best of my ability. The least I could do was show my appreciation for that. So, instead of being out for New Year drinking and doing what people do, I would show God that I appreciated my talent.
     
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    “My most under rated skill was that I was a hard worker. I learned how to fight. People don’t realise that I could fight inside and outside. I can fight anywhere in a boxing ring and I had to learn to box. I did twelve to sixteen hour days learning how to fight. They say ‘It’s all natural talent’ but it’s not. I‘d say it was 80:20. Twenty percent natural talent and 80 percent taught. It was all hard work. I had several years of ten to fifteen hour days purely working on boxing. That’s not natural talent. It is partly natural talent because there were other guys who could have done it but they didn’t have the mindset to go through what they had to go through to get there. The stars didn’t align for them.”
     
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    “In actuality I was 199lbs” he says. “The commission put me down as 193lbs because I weighed in with my clothes on and they thought I had stuff in my pockets. It wasn’t the case though. I was a true, solid 199lbs. I was telling people ‘this is gonna be bad. He thinks I’m 193lbs and the first time I touch him I know I’m gonna shock him. He thinks he can walk through 193lbs’.