How much do you think Adam Booth can improve Aydin and Lee's game?

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  1. Dynamito_2012

    Dynamito_2012 Active Member Full Member

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    Do you think he can make them smarter, more technical fighters?
     
  2. AndyPaterson

    AndyPaterson Active Member Full Member

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    didn't know he was training Aydin.
     
  3. Dynamito_2012

    Dynamito_2012 Active Member Full Member

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    Yep. Actually, in a recent training video, Aydin is wearing a Hayemaker t shirt haha, repping Hayemaker promotions :yep
     
  4. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    I expect to see Aydin now boxing off back foot near ropes and becoming a counter puncher with a low held guard.
     
  5. AndyPaterson

    AndyPaterson Active Member Full Member

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    he is a hot tempered ****er as well.
     
  6. cheekyvid

    cheekyvid Detroit, I shall return. Full Member

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    25% certainly, mayve even a third or more
     
  7. RODNEY MORASH

    RODNEY MORASH C♯ Sharp or B♭ Flat Full Member

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  8. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    Adam is definitely smart enough, it just depends on the fighter's level of intelligence.
     
  9. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Generally, it's better to fight with a textbook guard, since it keeps your hands in position to jab and hook as a lead punch while minimising exposure to a counter. It also means your power hand is generally in position to get maximum leverage after throwing the lead.

    That allows fighters with slower hands and reflexes to be more effective offensively and defensively.

    Modern fighters, in my view at least, are all too busy emulating Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather. But they're ignoring the fact that Jones was supernaturally fast and aware, and Mayweather is supremely well-schooled with foot, head and hand position - add in his physical gifts and it's near-impossible to emulate his approach.

    There's nothing wrong with a low-hand stance if you've mastered its subtleties, but it's not something that seems very prevalent in UK gyms.

    Booth uses it with his fighters to trick opponents into over-extending. They end up looking to land the lead had so much that they get out of position. For a fast, aware and mobile fighter like Haye, it was a good tactic. He could easily shift position and land a fast, hard counter. He's a gunslinger, basically.

    With Groves it's less effective, so he relies more on his legs.

    But regardless of how fighters implement it, it's naturally higher risk. For a technician like Watt was in his active years, he'll always criticise this - same as Manny Steward and Teddy Atlas picking on fighters who don't jab effectively.
     
  10. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A textbook guard learns fighters, that its ok to take punches on the gloves: Which will still do accumulative damage.

    Only **** fighters with no real athletic ability should employ a text book guard at all times.
     
  11. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I think the thing I enjoy most about your posts, PK, is how divorced from reality they are.
     
  12. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When David Haye was asked the exact same question.

    He gave a very similar answer.
     
  13. RODNEY MORASH

    RODNEY MORASH C♯ Sharp or B♭ Flat Full Member

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  14. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    So?

    There's a reason good trainers teach good fundamentals. It's about position and response times. Walking round with the ear-muffs on is only effective if you master good upper-body movement.
     
  15. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "If me and you ever met inside a boxing ring, i would spark you right out! with a low guard! so shut up"