Why Are The US Heavweights So Poor Now?

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  1. jaymon112

    jaymon112 MARVELOUS Full Member

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    I mean with an illustrious history, why isn't there anybody making noise in the Heavyweight world?
     
  2. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Klits are a once in a lifetime phenomenon.
    They can't be ****ed with... & why try??
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    kinda agree minus them USA would have beltholders
     
  4. TheRat

    TheRat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They're playing basketball and Gridiron football now.
     
  5. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Youre kidding right? Once in a lifetime phenomenon in
    Heavyweights would be Ali or Tyson. I think the
    phenomenon is the lack of American talent. Maybe
    HW boxing isnt as popular especially with younger
    people who would consider boxing. We all saw the
    US olympic heavyweight debacle, although the superheavy
    american won his pro debut. However he was a football
    player, perhaps other sports seem more lucrative and
    attractive. Perhaps trainers focus more on lower weights
    because those divisions are stacked. Back in 2009 I felt
    Arreola was rushed into a title shot, but I thought he had
    a chance against Vitali. But after that loss Arreola didn't
    improve his technique and is basically a club fighter.
    Seth Mitchell is a hype job. Interesting study.
    Less gyms? Haha I dont know. I mean the 90s
    were so stacked with American talent, Bowe
    Holyfield, Foreman, Tyson, Morrison, mercer.
     
  6. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Everyone is going to tell you that its because of the NBA and NFL, as if of the roughtly 150 million American men, they are all in the NBA or NFL.

    There are two real reasons:

    A) Americans are becoming lazier, fatter, and more cowardly every minute, and

    B) It is virtually impossible to find a good amatuer boxing program in our pussified culture.
     
  7. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok, this is a new theory. Like all profession you can only improve by being around people above your own level. Americans boxers are notarious for not going over seas. So by fighting opponents around the same level, possible championship potenial is suppressed. Maybe some of the better prospects could campaign in Europe and explore.
     
  8. Sugar Nick

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  9. bballchump11

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    yes we have no more good athletes in America over 6 foot because they're lazy :roll:

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  10. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Again- fallacy of small numbers.

    A tiny, tiny percentage of American atheletes over 6 foot play in the NBA/NFL.

    Its a joke, man. No one who understands basic mathematics can take that argument seriously.
     
  11. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think the NFL and NBA reason is a poor excuse

    both leagues have been around since before the HWT golden era of Ali and US heavies were still good

    even in the 90's big men still did these sports and US heavies still were top class

    I think the state of US boxing has more to do with the state of boxing than the availability of other sports
     
  12. Sugar Nick

    Sugar Nick He's A Good Boy Full Member

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    What do people think?
    America has good athletes and always will! It's just that most people dont wanna fight for a living. It's not like in the 70's every young male athlete was a fighter. It's a small percentage and always has been. We had 90% of heavyweight champions and now the tide has turned to Europe. The US will come back like it always has.
     
  13. gashalasha7

    gashalasha7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. If the Klitschko's weren't there, the Brits would rule the HW world.
     
  14. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I mean without the Klitschkos would the US be lagging that far behind? I dont think so
     
  15. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont know if theyd have all 4 belts maybe the majority but ppl act as if since the US has no title representation that they are suddenly horrible

    i just think the 2 K-Bros are just that good