Nonito donaire, a top 50 atg?

Poorly.

 

Harada is one of my favourites, those fake San Fransiscans better leave him alone

 

**** off. Harada weighed in same day without super fly or super bantam division and beat far better fighters. Without corruption he'd be a genuine 3 weight World champ. How many can say that?

Just **** off.

 

This era is diluted. Anyone with a proper knowledge of the lower weights in the 60//70s will know how superior it is to those weights from the mid-80s onwards.

Nonito is a massive cutter.

Have you even seen Kalule Vs Kalambay?

 

I have Harada above Jofre in the 30-35 bracket.

Anyone disagrees? Come at me.

 

:rofl

Who was the guy beating THE champion and THE no.1 in the division? Harada.

Narvaez, Sydorenko were not genuine champs. Nor was Arce.

Hasegawa was consensus no.1 yet in terms of actual lineage the fighter he beat for the title (Sahaprom) was never considered as such.

Montiel had looked **** before and after the Hasegawa fight, although he admittedly laid down the blueprint to beat him, and Nonito iced him in impressive fashion.

Nonito has some solid K.O wins over fellow lightweight cutting 20lbs and protected shams like Narvaez, that much is true.

Also, Donaire only usually looks brilliant when his man is coming at him, Harada was more diverse as to where he could take the fight.

 

All Donaire has is more power.

Harada's best opponents are far superior;

Beat the consensus greatest bantam of all time.

Beat a top ten fly of all time (probably twice) although I don't rage Pone that highly.

Beat an arguable top ten all time fly (Ebihara)

1-1 with a superior version of Montiel (Medel)

 

Esparza is not a no namer!!! He was a good contender.

Have you seen the second Kingpetch fight? Very debatable that Harada lost that one.

Did Rudkin lose against the best? Robbed against Ben Ali and McGowan the first time. Ran Rose VERY close. Again, looks like you're doing all your analysis based off boxrec.

Watch Aoki give Jofre fits for the first round and tell me Harada beating the **** out of him wasn't the better showing. Oh, you haven't seen footage that rare and I've done my research and have, so you're **** out of luck there :hi:

So what if he went 1-1 against Famechon? Was Fammo not a quality champion and naturally bigger than Harada?

Yes Medel beat Harada. He was that sneaky. Probably the best win a Mexican has, arguably anyway. Of course Harada's Resolve to try and keep getting up means little to you. Was Medel that beatable? Or was he a road warrior that doesn't get the due he deserves when you do a quick scan over his record?

What about Caraballo? You've probably never heard of him. Dwight Hawkins? One of the hardest pure punchers of the lower weights. Never heard of him have you?

Of course Harada had a bad style for Jofre, if that helps you diminish the quality of the win.

I would say it's not looking good for you, especially if you wanna' go tit-for-tat with me on the midgets of boxing.

 

I haven't dug up much on the Cotler loss but look how long Harada was a pro' for and how often he fought. He was known to take it easy or not bother sometimes, which he loses marks for of course.

Was Hernan Marquez, smaller and coming off a loss (against a nobody) really that good?

Was Wilfredo Vasquez Jr, with one good win over an over-hyped Sonsona, any good?

Did Nonito 'dominate' Mathebula?

Nonito struggled with an overweight Concepcion FFS! He also lost to a no namer (and actual no-namer) but I don't hold that against him.

Harada is so high because of his incredible achievements, IMO earning wins over the best over 3 weightclasses, with same day weigh in's and no super/junior weightclasses to **** around in. The two wins over Jofre are HUGE. It's like saying 'apart from beating Sonny Liston and George Foreman what did Muhammad Ali actually do'.

Again, how dominant was Guts Ishimatsu?

 

Hold on...you admit the only thing you know about Harada was that 'he was beatable against great fighters'?

Why do you even post? All that comes out is utter shite.

 

It wasn't Close with Rose. Rose dominated Harada. Rudkin ran Rose close.

Saldivar was shot to bits when Jofre beat him. Honestly, just stop talking you're making yourself look clueless. You're talking about things you have no clue about, don't know the context of, and are reaching to suit your agenda.

Again, did those no names 'beat' Medel or are you just looking on boxrec?

 

No, not at all. But why are you making assumptions nonetheless?

And Harada was done at bantam after Rose. And what of it? Did Rose not have a good style for Harada? You made those allowances for Jofre. Why 'oh, dear'. Again you haven't seen the fight, read anything about it or whatnot so why do you even have an opinion?

Seems to be you made a statement initially you can't back up and now you're a bit lost. Best to concede, learn and move on as we all have had to a some stage.

Again, how was Guts Ishimatsu a 'dominant lightweight champion'? You still haven't explained that one. Rose beat Guts BTW. The same Rose that Rudkin
Could've arguably beaten but then again,'you haven't seen any of their fights nor do you know anything about the Aussie scorecard controversy.