ambrose palmer. better athlete/fighter than mundine.

Palmer would have worn Choc out by making him miss, and counter punching him. Palmer's lightening left jab would have provided an easy means of defusing a Choc attack.

Very difficult to try to rate and compare fighters of today with fighters of seven decades ago.

Palmer once fought 3 x 15 round bouts in a period of 23 days !!!!
and his opponents, fighters like: Jack Hains, Jack Omaley, Fred Henneberry, Young Stribling (and he spotted Stribling 20 kilo in weight - don't think choc would ever do this), Ron Richards, etc.

You just cannot compare the older brew to the younger brew.

Oldies win hands down every time IMO. I tend to think that the difficult times they faced each other, the roundage, the weight differences between middleweights, who would take on heavyweights....

Palmer would have beaten Chock and his dad on the same night, tooooo experienced, toooo smart in ring craft, tooooo nice a bloke to ever tell you so.

 

83 three games of AFL is about as hard as playing one game of under 16 league...

 

You know, there needs to be more said about the fighter of old.

The sweet 'science' was studied by them....boxers made sure that they gained a greater knowledge of the techniques involved in maintaining and supporting their health and continuance in the sport.

I know that the Mundine camp does this also, and that Anthony has been trained very well in boxing. His move to fight as a light middle was a brave and strategic move.

If I was asked what was the greatest or most noteable thing that the 7 decades have produced/or been noticable, it would be the solid, muscular weight factor in the fighters of today.

Back then, food was different, supermarkets were in the form of short-stocked milk bars,. Performance drugs and growth potions were not available.

There was a huge difference in training also , Palmer never, ever, ever used a piece of weight to produce a muscle......all of the work he did, and as a boxing trainer was done au-naturale, with no weights.....(no mitterns either)

Today, boxers are built like bulls on hormones, and weights like fly and bantam are fairytails of small human beings existing long ago who were starving due to economic depression. Once upon a time boxers were regarded as gentlemen, and admired for their achievements. Now they market themselves in sheer stupid statements, and provide the greater support for wisdom in the old statement: "empty vessels make the bigger sounds" ....as don henley wrote: "Everything is Different Now"

 

C'mon, that's a bit silly......... Tony Mundine was rated one of the best middleweights in the world at his prime yet you have Ambrose beating him and his silly son on the same night atsch

 

Old man is a Mexican, all the Victorians stick together

 

You can't beat experience and skill!

 

Kahu Mahanga knocked out Tony.....reason? he found Tony's explicit fault.
....regularly over reaching with his left jab, whilst dropping his right glove (as a chin coverer)
You telling me, Amby would not have found this ?

 

:good

 

Jennifer Smith.
Olympian one sport and national amateur champ in another. And a girl
Is that better than 83 AfL games? You could play 83 games of League and not touch the ball.

http://www.reocities.com/australiagym_az/profiles/retired/jenny_smith.html

http://www.boxingaustralia.org.au/news2008.html
Scroll down on this one to 2008 Australian Women's championship.

What about guys who fought in wars and then returned to excel at elite level sport?
Or is Chocs selection criteria so vague that it only counts if you move down a weight division, stand on one foot and squint one eye.
She's got blonde hair so I guess Auntie Doris gets the credit for this one.

 

:thumbsup

 

Cricket's not a real sport.... We are talking about the likes of David Boon atsch

 

Note.
We could argue the finer points between David Boon and the greatest ALL ROUNDER of all time Keith Miller AM,MBE.

Choc can't be an all rounder in one sport. He is better at running than he is at catching so he chose boxing.