Judging from your response I have no reason to believe you can read, let alone comprehend what you read.
I thought the reason was it wasn't a contract? What reasons are we going with right now, because it changes each post? If it can't happen because of the dates, why did Nonito complain stating it wasn't a contract and not complain about the dates? If TR doesn't believe the fight is worth that much, why not call BS on that? Still not seeing why they're stating it's not a contract if you claim it's all these other reasons? I believe GBP is willing to take a possible minimal loss if it means proving the fighter in their stable is the undisputed best at his weight. It would bring the Donaire train to a big halt, and catapult Mares up in the public eye. Meaning more money in the future..
Again, we have no reason to believe this isn't part of all fight contracts and that possibility isn't always there.. Do they have a big history of cancelling fights after everything is a go?
I could give 2 shits what you judge me from to be totally honest...Thats beside the point...You've made a complete mockery of yourself and I'm not the only one that sees this..you're bias as hell and you're not making a lick of sense in the process...First you state that this was a public stunt from GBP, which if laughable, now you're coming up with these theories that really doesnt hold any water...Yet, you try to act as if you're in a better postion to know whats going when you're just a poster like the next man on the boards...If you have some inside info, please spit it out(and I know you dont so thats a moot point) if not, dont try to down talk the people that Slay Arum because that greedy son of a ***** has a history of killing fights.:-( Call me all the names and doubt me all you want...that still not gonna get your bias views across!:hi:
There isn't just one reason. There are multiple. He specifically did stating the paperwork didn't have dates. I don't even know if he knows what Schaefer said the proposed dates were nor does he need too. What counts is the written document. Now, you happy I didn't call it a contract? Again, that piece of **** received took away their right to call the bluff. NO lawsuits by either side. Remember? YOU pointed my original oversight on that point. Why take a loss when they could have taken their share of $1million with no risk of further loss? Bottom line. What is Mares' previous high purse? Don't start the split issues. The fighter always has purse splits.
this is where your common sense and intuition begins. GBP is paying 3 mil to TR. Mares/GBP turned down the 1mil offer from TR so you must assume Mares is going to get at least 1mi., which totals to 4mil. Promotional expense will be another 1mil. For GBP to break even, they need to generate 5mil. and they won't, not on this fight. the chance of this getting cancelled for whatever reason, if they have it, is very likely.
All I've seen was the complaint on there not being a contract.. If there are more recent complaints, I missed them and would love to see them. You yourself said they were still in negotiations, maybe they're still trying to iron out the date? I don't recall them saying he had to sign right now, only that was the terms for the fight. If he agrees, they further negotiate. If they don't, no fight. I was saying call their bluff and have them make the fight, since they're guaranteeing the purses. I see the risk knowing they can pull out whenever, but I haven't seen/heard anything about that not being standard protocol. Also haven't heard one reason they'd pull out besides you not thinking the fight is worth that much. Oscar believes he can do more with the event and get Mares more money?
Gotta spend money to make money.. I believe they'd take the risk knowing if Mares beats Donaire his stock will increase a ton and Donaire's will drop. This brings them more money in the future and less to Top Rank, something GBP would love. I do understand the other side of this particular argument, but I believe a good businessman is willing to spend money to make money.
I was looking for it too, confused me for a while.. Thought I was crazy and made up the other thread.
like Schaefer mentioned, if they didn't like the contract or if they don't want to fight for whatever reason, then come out and say it. Instead they pretended like they never got it and when they did get it, said it was just some random paper with that wasn't formal or in detail. the 2 Arum defenders here need to understand that.
Bottom line. I don't believe Arum walked away from $3 million, let alone the later reported $5 million for this fight. Schaefer admitted to turning down $1 million for Mares calling it a low ball offer. Nobody will touch that one. Why not just have Mares accept TR's offer of $1 million if he is so eager for the fight? I keep asking what Mares' top purse is but get no responses. None of this ads up other than the supposed contract said Donaire couldn't take a fight before Mares without saying WHEN that fight would take place. Again, this so called contract was not a real offer and there is NO way the TR lawyers would have let Arum sign it.
Details like when the fight would happen? This is no small issue since the contract says Donaire can't fight until it does. But yeah, I guess that works for GBP. Again, tell me you really believe this fight is worth over $6 million? Please. Let me here the numbers. You really believe Arum walked from a valid $5 million offer?
Show me the post where I said it wasn't fool. Go ahead. Maybe I was drunk enough to say that but I doubt it. Put up or shut up. Ball is in your court. Find the quote.
It was a publicity stunt that tried to get *******s like yourself thinking that PBF was scared of Pac and Top Rank was really serious about getting the fight done.:deal Nothing more nothing less. The person I was quoting, Hermit, stated that GBP's contract was a publicity stunt when it couldn't be further from the truth.