Marquez: I'm NOT interested, I don't owe Pacquiao.

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  1. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's had 3 2m+ paydays his entire career. He's rich compared to me and you, but he's earned pennies compared to Floyd and Pac. His next fight could get him 50%+ of his career purse.
     
  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I've always liked JMM. Hell, I think that he won every fight against Pac. However, he's being a pretty big ***** after Pac kept giving him chance after chance when he could have walked away with his victories. I think that he should show mutual respect and give Pac a chance to redeem himself as Pac did for him numerous times. Especially considering the fact that Pac was looking better against Marquez in that fight than he had in any of the other fights minus the knockdown/out.
     
  3. DrX

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    he do owe pac....pac couldve said the same thing
     
  4. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Just search the forum for their names...her name is Submersive, this was a while back, but you'll find it if you look. She basically runs **** over there...they both use their same names Dodong and Puga (whatever).
     
  5. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not, it's very easy, just click on that link. Pretty much all reputable boxing experts submitted their scores, it came out to 114-114 on average.

    I don't mean to put down his resume, only put it in context. It's very good but unremarkable without Pac on it. It doesn't make Pac look bad, RJJ, Barrera, Ali all had inferior nemeses.
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    If you think JMM owes Pacquiao, then you also should acknowledge that JMM has the right to wait 4 years to give him the rematch.
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Pac's fights with JMM netted Pac some of his highest earning fights of his career. The first two at least when they occurred.

    Pac has proven to fight for the money.

    If JMM doesn't want the money, no biggie in my eyes. Part of me didn't want to see III or IV, so I won't lose any sleep if V never happens.
     
  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I won't really care either. Just expressing my opinion on JMM's stance. I think it will always be the way that it is. JMM has Pac's number... yet I think that Pac is great against other opponents than JMM. Just a matter of their two styles and skill sets.

    I wouldn't just say that Pac fights for the money. The guy fights everyone. Barrera, Morales, JMM, Cotto, ODLH, Mosley, Margarito, Bradley, Hatton, Clottey, ect...
     
  9. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And the winner by way of knock out..... From ciduad de mejico jjjjjjuuuaaannnn mmmmmaaannnnuuuueeeellll dddddiiinnnaaaammmmmiiiiitttaaaaaaa mmmmmmmmaaaarrrqqqquuuezzzz!!!!
     
  10. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't blame Juan one bit....He made a **** load of money fighting PAC and even though he's still behind in the 4 fight series (2 PAC_1 JMM (KO)_1 Draw) his win was without controversy. Plus...the way the 4th fight was going before he landed that right hand that slept PAC...he was in a REAL bad way. He was getting dominated and a 5th fight could undo everything he was able to accomplish in the 4th fight with Manny. Walk away and enjoy what you've done in this sport JMM... you the man!
     
  11. Bogotazo

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    Apparently all "reputable boxing experts" aside from the trainers and boxers and fans I just mentioned.

    It's close to a HOF career without Pac, but since he knocked him out after beating him prior in the eyes of many, we don't have to wonder about that.

    :deal
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

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    Post Cotto though is what I'm talking about. Oscar put him on the map, Hatton and Cotto capped a magical year which thrust him into spotlight... Then he milked it for money.

    Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, JMM III, Bradley, JMM IV

    It's the weakest stretch of his career. And he lost 2 of the 6 fights, one brutally. The average age of these guys when he fought them has got to be like 36+.

    edit: ^ actually it's nowhere near the worst stretch of his career. I can't even say it's the worst post-Sasakul or post-Barrera I. But still, not a very good one.
     
  13. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gotta love how *******s want to insinuate and accuse JMM of PEDs, but in the same breath state that testing is pointless. The irony of it all is that JMM was open about being willing to take any tests that Pac wanted to take.

    It must be hard defending that fraud Pac.
     
  14. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess not, they can probably send in their scores. The list is not anonymous, it's most of the guys that get paid for their boxing opinion in the US. Again you refuse to deal with the simple fact that it can't be a robbery when the expert opinion is split 50/50. With robberies there has to be a consensus, like 80/20 or wider.

    OK, we're on the same page on his resume.
     
  15. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has the right to minimize his earnings any way he wants. The "Chris John on a jungle parking lot" way is very famous, can he beat that?