The Official "Is Juan Manuel Marquez on Steroids" Poll thread

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  1. Smokin' Joe

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    I'd like HONEST opinions on this, not butthurt opinions, and everyone knows the difference. It'll be good to get a yes or no from the forum at large, once and for all.

    Looking for a decisive general opinion, so I'm not going to include an 'undecided' option. If you're not sure, just don't vote.

    This is not a thread for arguing and debating the matter. You do not need to state long arguments for or against (looking at you, OnePunchKO), we've all heard them many times, just a simple yes or no will do, and perhaps a quick word or two about why you think that.


    Go.
     
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  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    No. Someone willing to take advanced testing has NOTHING to hide.
     
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  3. Hatesrats

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    I'll go out on a limb & say they have all "Tropicana'd" at some point in their career.

    Still don't explain the skill level & boxing IQ.
     
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  4. dareo

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    No he aint
     
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  5. DrMo

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    Only one East German athlete ever tested positive. Barry Bonds, Marion Jones & Lance Armstrong all passed hundreds of tests.

    The testers are always a step behind the latest advancements & passing a test does not guarantee an athlete is 100% clean, it never has done.
     
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  6. turbotime

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    Lance was retested and caught. When jones wins all those medals testing hadn't been established yet which was early 2001
     
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  7. henrik

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    No doubt IMO that he took something to get that physiqe in a 8-10 weeks traningcamp...but i dont know if its an illigal supplement or something legal...But im 100 % sure that he couldn´t develop so much,so fast at that age..Without anything, but healthy food.
     
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  8. turbotime

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    Hell Juan even looked pretty ordinary against Fedchenko. He just is more capable against guys coming right at him like PAC and Katsidis
     
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  9. Smokin' Joe

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    His training camp for the Pacquiao fight lasted almost 4 months. Any athlete should be able to get a physique like that with 4 months of training, especially when you're specifically concentrating on building certain muscle groups.



    This is the kind of thing that bothers me. A lot of misinformation spewed out like it's fact.
     
    Smokin' Joe, Feb 8, 2013
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  10. sbbigmike

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    Yes and no, he's not roiding but is edging that line, probably taking banned substances that leave his system quickly, which could possibly turn up if he took OSDT

    JMM used a weak ass excuse to duck the Mayweather rematch so things aint looking good for him, he no longer gets the benefit of doubt
     
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  11. DrMo

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    All I'm saying is the argument that if someone passes a test (or is willing to take a test) then they are clean just doesnt work & that applies to sports with more vigorous testing than boxing.

    The truth is we dont know for certain if Juan used illegal PEDs or not.
     
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  12. sbbigmike

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    How do you go from getting touch up and having to use his all vs Fed, to putting Manny on his ass and later sleeping the iron chinned warrior
     
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  13. Smokin' Joe

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    Not wanting to fight Mayweather means he's on steroids? :huh


    Is it not more likely that he realises his chances of winning are very slim considering it's a bad styles matchup for him?
     
    Smokin' Joe, Feb 8, 2013
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  14. Suga

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    I voted no but only because you did not ask about Pacquiao as well. I believe marquez only took roids to even that up against pacquiao. He has never taken them while fighting for other fights other than the 3 and 4 pac fights
     
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  15. Suga

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    Make another poll that says was Pac and Marquez both on steroids? Then I would vote yes ;)
     
    Suga, Feb 8, 2013
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