Can the HW version of RJJ go through k2's combined Resume with 5 or less losses???

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  1. Vladimir23

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    Of course it's a troll thread.

    Respect is another FelixTrinidad/Skittlez alt. He has been banned thousands of times from ESB and the scene.
     
  2. Loudon

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    Fair enough mate, I respect your opinion on Lewis, but I think Roy definitely would of had a chance.

    Welcome to the board mate.

    I told you that this thread would turn into a farce.

    Chisora and Arreola beating Roy?

    No chance!

    They would only have a punchers chance and nothing more. If they threw a lottery punch and landed, then he's gone, but look at Wlad vs Haye.

    Haye is a poor mans Roy Jones.

    He frustrated Wlad with his movement.

    How could Chisora or Arreola beat Roy?

    They would never have had the opportunity to land clean on Roy in my opinion.

    Roy was a solid 200 pounds, and his reflexes were incredible. His speed of hand and foot was amazing.

    I think he'd beat both of them pretty easily on points.
     
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  4. Nonito Smoak

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    Way over 5.

    I'll say def to Lewis, Byrd X3, Sanders X2, Haye, and Peter at least the one from the first Wlad fight.

    Arreola, Ibragimov, and Adamek all have notable chances.

    Huge guys like McCline, Wach, and Thompson, despite being nothing special themselves, pose intense size differences.

    But yes, Roy Jones vs. over 100 HW's = multiple defeats, some coming from lesser guys never discussed from the K's resumes, even, I'd venture to guess.
     
  5. BagsWithDust

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    i think roy at heavy doesnt fit him well. roy said so himself that at heavy he didnt feel as fast and didnt have the same quality of abilities he had at 175. however, still at hw he was really good, still fast and good defenses. I think he suffers some losses at heavy but not as many as people think imo
     
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  7. Vladimir23

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    Glass Jaw Jones would have 42 losses

    Haye
    Lewis
    Peter x 3
    Chagaev
    Ibragimov
    Sanders x 2
    Arreola
    Byrd x 3
    Hide
    Brewster x 2
    Chambers
    Mercer
    Rahman
    McCline
    Adamek
    Gomez
    Thompson x 2
    Brock
    Solis
    Briggs
    Wach
    Williams
    Donald
    Botha
    Chisora
    Johnson
    Charr
    Purrity x 2
    Barrett
    Jefferson
    Williamson
    Johnson
    Austin
    Schulz
     
  8. Loudon

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    ANY heavy in history would have a chance of knocking out Roy, that's obvious. But a lot of guys that's been mentioned have limited skills.

    Speed can offset a lot of fighters attributes. Roy's speed would trouble ANY heavyweight, even if he ended up losing.

    Wlad vs Haye is a good example to use.

    Wlad has superior skills to Arreola.

    Haye isn't as fast as Roy was.

    Haye frustrated Wlad, and Wlad couldn't land clean and knock him out.

    If Arreola landed, Roy would be sleeping. But Wlad couldn't knock Haye out, so why are people assuming that guys like Chisora and Arreola could knock Roy out?

    I know styles make fights, but people are underestimating Roy's incredible speed. A guy like Arreola couldn't just walk up to Roy and KO him. It'd be so hard for them to land clean.

    If Ruiz had've landed flush, he could have easily knocked out Roy. He could hit a lot harder than Tarver, Johnson and Green etc, but he never got the opportunity when they fought.

    Roy gives up height, weight and power to everyone on the list. But he's more skilled and possesses speed which none of them have come across before.

    It's ridiculous to think that everyone would beat him, just because they're bigger.

    He embarrassed Ruiz.
     
  9. thesandman

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    I think it's funny that one of the knocks on Roy here is that he's too small, and in the same breath people pick Adamek to beat him.
    Adamek is not a great deal bigger than RJJ.

    Jones picks up a few losses to those guys. Lewis beats him easily.
    Sanders probably does, unless Jones stays away for 6 rounds. Rahman beat Sanders, he wasn't this mythical monster he's now become after flattening Wlad when semi-retired.

    Personally, I think Jones is a bit over rated, but I see no reason he couldn't have been as good as Byrd at heavy. If not better.

    He's not going to stand in front of these sluggers. If Byrd can beat a fat Tua, then RJJ can wipe the floor with guys like Sam Peter, Arreola etc. Really crude sluggers to be honest. They'd be lucky to land anything.
     
  10. thesandman

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    So, in short.

    Lewis beats him.
    Hide does if he lands, but he was very chinny and could be stopped.
    Sanders could stop him, but could stopped late, maybe on his feet exhausted.
    Rahman would be a good fight. But the old, old, old Rahman Wlad fought gets smashed by RJJ.
    Brewster? Could be a good fight actually. Brewster was hot and cold too. If he catches RJJ he probably stops him, but Jones could stay away.
    Haye, if he decides to go for the KO, could probably get him. But Jones would be a very live underdog.
     
  11. Loudon

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    Hi mate, you've made some great points.

    It's obvious to anyone that if any of those fighters had landed clean, Roy would have been out. But any fully fledged heavy is capable of knocking out any other heavy if they land flush.

    I don't agree that the 2003 version of Lennox would have easily have beaten Roy, but I think he would definitely lose to a few guys.

    Like you say, some of those fighters are crude sluggers, and Roy wouldn't have been there to hit. I can't see how a guy like Arreola could have beaten the Ruiz version of Roy. I can't envisage it at all.
     
  12. Loudon

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    I think Lewis could have beaten him, but I'd give Roy a decent chance against a past his best 2003 version of Lennox.

    I think Roy could have beaten Hide, and out boxed him.

    I think Sanders may have been too much.

    I think Roy could have frustrated Rahman.

    Brewster could go either way like you say.

    Haye is really tough. IF he'd have gone all out for the knockout, then I could envisage him stopping Roy.

    However, I don't think he'd have adopted those tactics, and I think he'd have been very wary of Roy's speed.

    He's a huge fan of Roy's and he's copied his style, or tried to copy it. His mindset going into the fight would play a huge part in my opinion.

    He'd know that Roy was faster and more skilled. He'd have the advantage in power, but he'd know that he hasn't got a great defence and a great chin. I think if Roy could have tagged him hard early on, David would have backed off.

    Although I could envisage him being behind on points and maybe going for a late knockout and getting it.

    It's a tough one.

    If i was a betting man, I think I'd have to go with a decision for Roy, with him staying out of harms way.
     
  13. Barry Smith

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    The funny and sad thing is that Ruiz is actually a fare bit better than most of the Klitschkos opponents.
     
  14. Loudon

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    Hi mate, nice to see you.

    I always look forward to reading your posts.

    You've made a very good point here. I've just looked through both of their resumes as a reminder.

    He was certainly as good as the majority of them, if not better like you say.


    Regards, Loudon.
     
  15. BadDog

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    Roy would be in a coma if he would stay at HW. If Tarver brutally KOed him, just imagine what happens if Brewster or Sanders land on him. A jab would be more then enough.