Is it safe to say Wladimir got the worst chin of the top 10 heavyweights?

Each boxer has his strengths and weaknesses. Wlad, if he ranks in the top10, scores lowest in durability. However, he also scores lowest in average number of punches taken per round (against rated opposition or not). You have to weigh these. Then there's styles. A guy like Patterson or Frazier is going to have a harder time not having the best durability, because they were short, come-forward style fighters who couldn't stick behind the jab and win rounds. Guys like Wlad and Lewis can compensate for durability weaknesses with their range and boxing ability.

 

Watch the last round vs Haye. He got hit clean and wasted almost all the round locking up Haye and hanging on for his life. With the correct officiating and against somebody more dangerous than Haye, he would of been finished off.

 

This is one fight i was thinking of, and also there was one time where his last opponent landed, and he looked for the desperate clinch straight away. It was worrying fo an ATG. Still, maybe i should rewatch brewster and peter again. I thought he folded against Brewster with virtually the first punch that was landed.

 

I've always rated Sanders's power very highly, but I've recently started to gain a much greater appreciation of Brewster's power, based on watching his past fights and reading testimonies of various opponents/sparring partners who've fought him. I wouldn't go anywhere near calling him one of the hardest single shot punchers ever though. He had very respectable, concussive power and could definitely muck up your day if you were foolish enough to let him land on you. A tough as nails above average puncher describes him well enough I think.

 

Sanders didn't really get a lot of weight behind his shots. Most of his power punches tended to be torque shots, using a slight dip in the legs and a quick twisting of the torso to achieve their effect. It was the speed and sneakiness of his punches that made them so devastating, along with a lot of brute upper body strength (obtained from golfing I suppose). He very rarely threw his entire bodyweight behind his shots the way someone like Rahman did. Now that dude was a heavy duty puncher!

 

I'd argue that that's more of an ingrained mental reaction rather than a physical problem. Due to his past losses, he seems to have trained himself not to take any chances whatsoever. Any time he's ever remotely buzzed he either backs off or clinches up. Other fighters might fight on.

I can think of a few big shots he's taken well, though it sort of depends what you mean by taking them well. The fact that he wasn't knocked clean out by the bombs he was taking in the Peter fight at least argue that he hasn't got a totally awful chin. He took some huge punches late in that fight which resulted in him taking an eight count (the only legitimate one in the fight IMO) but recovering enough to rock Peter and nab the decision. Since then he was tagged hard by Brewster (rematch), Peter (rematch) Haye and Wach. Haye probably landed the most on him, whilst Wach probably landed the most devastating single blow. Brewster and Peter caught him with leaping left hooks early in the fight to my recollection, neither of which had any real effect on him.

 

I've also seen Arreola and Vitali throw punches in person. Sanders' power made a much bigger impression on me

 

I think Brewster's left hook is easily one of the top 20 or 30 hardest punches any fighter has had. Arguably, quite a bit higher.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Sanders is a heck of a puncher himself. But he wasn't a heavy puncher like Rahman. He was fast and explosive, qualities that aren't as dependent upon physical size. That was just my point.

 

...his power did depend a lot on his size though. Would you rather get windmilled in the face with a five pound turkey or a 15 pound turkey?

 

Well, if poultry slappage was an inevitable part of my immediate future then I'd take the five pound option, for sure. I'd stop short of having one dropped on my head though.

 

I give Sanders credit for his fluke lucky punch win over a green, young, cocky, overconfident, underprepared worst version of Wlad who totally underestimated Sanders...Wlad beats Sanders 999 out of 1000 times.

But Brewster gets ZERO credit from me, he didn't do ****, he was getting destroyed in the first fight, he's lucky Wlad was poisoned.

Wlad was definitely poisoned, the proof is in this thread:

[url]http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=330219[/url]


Wlad easily destroyed Brewster and made him quit in the rematch.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqcq63x0kr4[/url]

 

******ed post.

Wlad was never hurt in the fight, everytime Haye landed Wlad answered back right away and continued dominating.

In the 12th round, Wlad took those Hayemakers and was unphased, he answered back right away, went on the attack and hurt Haye, who retreated and went back into survival mode. Wlad dominated the rest of the round.

Wlad easily dominated Haye and won a shutout 12-0

 

Wlad-Brewster I: Wlad was easily destroying Brewster until he succumbed to the poison.

Wlad-Peter I: Wlad showed great heart and resiliency, he overcame adversity, got off the canvas and beat the **** out of Peter. There was actually only one legit knockdown. The other two were from an illegal rabbit punch and a push. Wlad clearly won 10 rounds. In the dramatic 12th round, Peter landed a monster left hook and tried to follow up, Wlad took it well and answered back with a beautiful left hook that hurt Peter badly and had him out on his feet. Wlad continued beating the **** out of Peter, who was saved by the bell. Wlad conquered his demons in this great fight.

Wlad-Brewster II: Wlad easily destroyed Brewster and made him quit.

Wlad-Peter II: Wlad dominated every round and brutally KO'd Peter.

 

The best post so far... Objective, delectible, delightful.

I could rate him top 10, although I don't do lists, if I did, Wlad may end up in the top ten.

Joe Louis has the most questionable chin of all the definite top 10 HW's... I would rate his chin as less dependable (by far) than Wlad's... And **** off in advance... There's plenty of evidence to support this.