Gerald McClellan vs Marvin Hagler

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  1. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    Steward once said G-man took a perfect shot from Hearns clean and wasn't hurt at all...
    Possibly he has a better chin than Hagler.
    Hagler is defensively much more sound though
     
  2. PowerPuncher

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    McClellan couldn't in fight or fight going backwards, McClellan also has suspect stamina.

    I see going a bit like Hagler-Hearns except maybe McClellan starts even faster and even hurts Hagler. Hagler realises he has to take the fight to GMAN, he moves inside forcing him back and batters McClellan at that range for the majority of the rest of the fight with GMAN having sporadic success with occasional bombs he gets off. McClellan with his superior chin lasts longer than Hearns but I still see him getting stopped late from an accumulation of punishment
     
  3. MadcapMaxie

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    Went 8 rounds with the much bigger and much harder punching Benn without much problem, even with his headbutts and rabbit punching he was never floored and only stopped because of a serious brain injury yet Hagler would stop him?
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    Benn wasn't much bigger, he was 5'9 and they initially planned to have him campaign at 154lbs himself. I'm not sure he was much harder hitting, his power was lost allot of it's shine when he moved from 160 to 168. Benn's overall offensive arsenal is not better than Haglers, because Hagler is that much more skilled. Other boxers that aren't considered huge punchers, stopped guys Benn couldn't stop, such as McCallum who stopped the Watson who beat Benn.

    I wonder if the serious brain injury had anything to do with just taking a sustained beating for 9 rounds?
     
  5. MadcapMaxie

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    My bad it was actually 10 rounds he went with Benn. I'm fairly certain Benn was both bigger and a harder puncher, certainly a harder puncher he bombed guys out while with Hagler it was usually an accumalation of accurate punches. Hagler certainly is more skilled but my point was that McClellan took alot of bombs from a bigger, harder punching man in Benn for 10 rounds and never seemed hurt, I just watched the Benn-McClellan fight again and Gman never appeared more than momentarily stunned even with Benn's headbutts, rabbit punches and punching after the bell.

    Even before the fight McClellan was complaining of bad headaches and was blinking badly. If he didn't get a brain injury in the Benn fight it would've been in some other fight down the road.
     
  6. Bollox

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    Have the weigh in the day of the fight and there'd be no fight because McLellan would be 20 pounds over the limit. Or how about we imagine Marvin to have been a natural lightheavy. Then we can compare apples with apples :good
     
  7. Bokaj

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    So what? Hagler still stopped many more top fighters than Benn did. He was clearly a much more dangerous opponent despite Benn's superior power. You think Hagler would have been KO'd by Watson and Eubank? Benn was actually stopped (Watson, Eubank) or came extremely close to it (Barkley, McClellan) against most top fighters he faced. Hagler wasn't ever seriously hurt.
     
  8. Nipple

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    Benn DESTROYED Barkley. I'm pretty sure you mean Logan, and not Barkley.
     
  9. Bokaj

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    No, Barkley. Barkley nearrly had Benn out of there, before being stopped himself.

    EDIT: Wasn't as bad as I rememebered, but Barkley had Benn a bit hurt twice.
     
  10. atberry

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    Dude, McCallum beat MW on exhaustion not power. And MW took Benn`s bombs on his gloves.
     
  11. MagnaNasakki

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    Give me Hagler decisively.

    McClellan was a great to be. He had the tools; Power, body punching, toughness, heart.

    But he wasn't great. He skills were very lacking. His footwork was often a mess. He did not enjoy being backed up. He hated being bullied. He had a subpar defense that, while slowly improving, wasn't improving fast.

    Had Gerald been luckier, and had a few more years, I think he'd have evolved as a technician, and been even better. He was a young fighter.

    But nothing I saw, and I've seen near every fight and a ton of sparring, leads me to believe he's in the same universe as Marvin Hagler, and his power and sharpness can't bail him out.

    Hagler, WIDE UD.
     
  12. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Power is the most overrated thing in this sport. People will elevate you to an even higher pantheon than you belong, just because you have it.

    Hagler was easily more dangerous than Benn. Benn, while powerful, was extremely limited. Hagler beat damn near everybody, and had a long and storied title reign. Benn lost to the finest fighters he faced.
     
  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yet Nigel Benn did him in...:think....and look, Hagler is greater than Benn was on his best ever night. If McClellan was to make it a war, then the tiger in Haglers tank could have been awakened and a stoppage ..in the late rounds and by a tko...could have very well have taken place for Marv. Ay any rate Hagler beats him...by decision or tko.
     
  14. MagnaNasakki

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    I think Hagler might have hurt him. An even worse, more sustained beating than he took from Benn.

    Gerald just wasn't ever ready for a Marvin Hagler. He proved unready for a Nigel Benn.
     
  15. BoxingFanPhil

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    This absolutely. Wtf is the debate. Lol.