How does Fist Size affect boxing

Hand size doesn't matter. I'd imagine Valuev would have the highest KO ratio if that were true. He had average power at best.

 

What? Bones contract now?

 

If anybody knows anything about biomechanics or the human body you'll know that it means exactly **** all. If anything a larger hand would be a disadvantage as the force would be dispersed over a larger area rather than focused at one smaller point. There isn't enough variation between hand sizes to allow that to have any sort of effect anyway.

 

Foreman would take someones head off bareknuckle. Side note. I have some bear mitts, which sucks for guitar.

 

I remember seeing hi stand next to Lampley holding a mic and his hands dwarfed Jim's.

 

bigger bones can support more muscle mass smart ass

 

Not at all.

Per physics and if the fists were equally durable, the SMALLER the fist the better. Easier to accelerate and the force is dispersed over a smaller area.

 

If thats true then i guess Corbett hit harder than Dempsey, Louis and Marciano and thats not happening

 

Incorrect.

Anyone who ACTUALLY knows something about biomechanics (I have a masters degree in Kinesiology, how about you?) knows that the force that matters is the kinetic energy transferred into the opponent's skull. It doesn't make any difference how it is "spread out" in the projectile.

Mass X speed. What don't you people understand here?

Dyna, you can quote all the equations you want, but you suffer from the mistaken idea that a heavier fist would mean less speed, which of course is not the case since a larger fighter would be throwing it.

Besides which, there have been a number of tests done over the years which don't just "prove" this concept but give statistical data on the correlation of change. Easy to find with a little Googling.

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Try a simple concept: lie on the ground, and have someone drop 2 objects onto your head, from 20 feet above: a tennis ball, and a bowling ball. They both travel at the same speed, and they both have the same (zero) support.

Or have someone shoot you in the head, form say 10 feet away, with a 22, and then with a 44, but limit the 44's load so it travels at the same speed as the 22.

You really think that in either case, there would be equal damage? Puleeze.

One more: stand 10 feet in front of a baby carriage, and have someone push it towards you at 10 miles an hour. Try to stop it. Now do the lame with a freight train. Good ****ing luck.

What a silly discussion.

 

How come Corbett couldn't hit anywhere nearly as hard as Dempsey, Marciano, Louis then???
Fist size is fist size... If you have something behind it giving it more power it will be more powerful, if you dont have punching power it wont be powerful
It's just a fist it dosent generate power or anything its just there to deliver the punch it dosent move giving you more power or anything

 

I was going to say the same.

Naseem Hamed had power, small fists, but loads of hand problems.

Maybe fist size plays a part in 'clubbing' power, as opposed to one punch KO power?

 

The formula for kinetic energy is 1/2mv^2, bigger fists don't give extra energy they don't add muscles.
The total energy remains the same, therefore the g-forces when you hit someone remain the same wether you have 11 inch Joe Louis fists or 15 inch Liston fists.

Your examples are extremely flawed, a baby carriage needs an extreme amount less energy than a freight train to move 10 miles an hour.

A freight train weighs between 120-240 ton.
That means it carries around 1.1-2.3 million joules of energy.

A baby carriage that weighs 5 kg can be propelled to 964 meters per second with 2.3 million joules.

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I have a masters degree in strength and conditioning and work with elite athletes so yeah...
I already said that it's not going to make any difference but if it did then a smaller fist would be a negligible advantage if anything. You obviously don't know anything about pressure physics.
I've seen you bring up your 'kinesiology degree' a few times along with incorrect information. I'm guessing your results weren't the best and you're currently employed in a different field? Just a hunch

 

Newsflash buddy, bones don't need to be massive to support muscle. Muscle isn't heavy enough or powerful enough to damage the slimmest of bones (maybe Grandmothers suffering from osteoporosis could be an exception, even then they'll never be strong enough or heavy enough to test that theory out). Bone density could theoretically make a difference but again that has nothing to do with size. Can always rely on ESB members to make uneducated statements.

 

The difference in pressure of a small fist in boxing gloves compared to big fists in boxing gloves is practically non existant.
Boxing gloves prevent that, also you don't need to punch holes in a guy, you only have to move his head very fast.