Wlad v Dempsey

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by lufcrazy, Feb 5, 2013.


  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Didn't Demsey refuse to fight Langford..
     
  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    With his power he has a chance against anyone.
     
  4. Jorodz

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    i think his one punch power gets a bit overrated. it was speed and ferocity that did it. that's what it looks like on film and that's what jack sharkey said. i'm sure he'd hit wlad but he'd be reduced to single digit punches by the fourth...and dempsey didn't have the raw power to get it done with that connect rate
     
  5. Johnstown

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    he is swinging like a tough man competitor after willard is hurt bad.....his initial left hook off the dempsey roll is smooth as goose ****.


    Sanders looked pretty ****ing wild while he was knocking Wlad around the ring like a ****ing pinata











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    yes i know..sanders is bigger than dempsey..he still looks sloppy as **** after wlad is hurt.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    I think he does have the power to change the fight with one punch. Brewster got the **** kicked out of him till that left hook to the body. Sanders was getting the worse of the fight until he landed that counter as well. He will have to work at a pace he is not comfortable with and as he tires and starts to drop his hands, starts to lose a step of pace he will be more susceptible to punishment.

    For me the thing that makes me pick wlad is that I think Dempsey is too open to the right hand and I don't think he could slip wlads jab to get inside. I don't think he has the technique to get him into punching range. If I did then I would change my mind.
     
  7. Absolutely!

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    Sanders actually fights a bit like Dempsey at times, very straight backed, throwing quick somewhat crude looking shots from the hips.

    He doesn't have the low slung bobbing swaying movement of course, but when he goes on the attack there are distinct similarities.

    Harsh to say he looks sloppy as **** though. Sanders could be very sloppy, but his shots here are crisp and compact. He's certainly no Max Baer in the so crude it's hilarious category.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    To be fair Sanders only got reckless after he landed the counter that ****ed wlads world up. Wlad was stumbling around trying to clinch and sanders was able to throw a multitude of shots with very little coming back him.

    Had Wlad been able to hurt Sanders and stop him wading in he would likely have been more cautious.
     
  9. Johnstown

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    Yeah i know...when a guy is staggering around good to get knocked out and not looking like he is able to punch back its not the worst thing in the world to go a bit wild and load up on some shots. and yes he did look decently compact before he hurt Wlad...same as Dempsey looked compact before he hurt Willard..hence my point.
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    Given wlads size and frame you should go in swinging when he's hurt as his legs become a mess and his balance is all over the place, he has a lot of target to hit that he can't effectively protect and his lack of durability makes it tough for him to weather a storm.

    Brewster was the same after landing that left hook to the body, he saw the hurt in his eyes and swung for the fences till that left hook landed on the chin.

    Being reckless in your attack will get the majority of people knocked out by wlad but once he's on ***** street it seems the safest option for me.
     
  11. Absolutely!

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    He's got a very ingrained clinch reflex though. Sloppy aggression might overwhelm him but it might equally well result in you getting tied up and gassed out, which would not be a good place to find yourself in. Sharp, educated combos with a lot of rough stuff on the inside seems the way to go. Don't let him breath, don't let him reset.
     
  12. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Comparing jack Dempsey considered the greatest hwt of all time for 50 years and considered the best by such astute boxing professionals as Arcel, Stillman and Tunney just to name a few to an absolute nothing like Sanders is close to an all time low. Just incredible.
     
  13. heavy_hands

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    that first thing that i think is that wladimir is much bigger, stronger, more athletic, much more modern ...but with these old school tough mother****ers who knows, it is all speculation. maybe wladimir would kill him like an insect or maybe dempsey would show how much tough were the old school fighters and would knock him out with a left hook
     
  14. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Any changes in this one ? After Wlad´s last fight ?
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    Very impressive stuff.
    Where did you see Wladimir doing that ?