The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    :lol: no man it's half term.

    joking aside that thread actually did worry me :lol: I asked for it to be taken down in the end.
     
  2. Mr Butt

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    I know you have been here a long time but you did ask for opinions so you will have people saying different things in different ears especially if this is going in more than one forum.

    Not meaning to give you hassle if that's the way you have taken it :oops:
     
  3. McGrain

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    He was more exceptional, flashier. Think about how someone might rank Hopkins higher than Jones. That would be a ludicrous thing to do up until a certain point then all of a sudden it's "yeeeahhh, maybe." Tommy "trudged" more than Mike.

    Better yet - think of the Wlad-Vitali dynamic. Now we think Wlad is by far the better brother. When they "Came out" he was the one the buzz was about. But after what happened to Wlad, Vitali was the guy, strong, stoic, a machine for all that he was seen as less classy. If Wlad retired after getting stopped the last time, maybe you have a flash of what might have happened with the brothers. Tommy just overhauled him the osensibly more talented brother in our opinion, me and you.

    But I do think his resume gets lowballed.

    BE had some strong feelings about this, hopefully he wanders in and explains them at some point. He the poor man's surf-bat.
     
  4. McGrain

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    No no, not at all, not even a little bit. I was just explaining it to you. I value your opinion and hope you keep giving it with both lungs and ten fingers.
     
  5. McGrain

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    :yep
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    I do rate him the better brother now, but did people at the time once the careers had ended? Like say in the 30's were people saying "tommy overtook Mike in the end didn't he?"
     
  7. McGrain

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    No clue.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    I had an issue due to someone who I personally know from this site joining up with that one and seeing the bad things I'd done to his room mates cousin. Not cool :-(
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    I have the hunch that they weren't is all I'm saying. I can't rmemeber when or where but I'm getting the feeling we're being overly revisionist :think
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    I still class Tommy better btw. maybe it's just they felt mike was more talented despite tommy beating better people :think
     
  11. McGrain

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    Well my thinking is, it doesn't really matter. We know Mike enjoyed a rep as a genius but we also know Tommy was all but unbeatable. Take it for what it is and try not to low-ball Mike on the resume, would be my way of seeing things.

    And try not to forget what he did to Dillon and his kind.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    that's how I see it right now actually.

    I imagine it'll be a bit like Floyd and Pac for future generations when people compare resume's they'll be like "how was floyd ever considered the better man?"
     
  13. McGrain

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    no, sh, quiet.


    I'm off to do some **** that isn't this for some reason, if BE comes in here ask him about Mike and don't read any black writing.
     
  14. Johnstown

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    ok....so whats the 100 look like..i cant find a new updated version?
     
  15. Flea Man

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    Writing about Floyd's massive head and mood swings.