Dan Rafael gets torn a new one by Fres Quendo's Manager

It is a known fact now that Pele Reid brutally KO'd Vitali. When there was no footage of this in the public domain, the Klittards denied this.

CHEF, You also claimed that Wlad destroyed Malik Scott in sparring - this is untrue. It is true that two vastly inferior fighters to Scott - Jarno Rosberg and Richard Towers - did well against Wlad in sparring, so your claim that he destroyed Scott is laughable.

So you guys denying that Oquendo dropped him doesn't mean ****.

It is also true that Travis Walker and Raphael Butler dropped Vitali in sparring. Oquendo is a far superior fighter to Butler and arguably Walker too, so it is not unfeasible that Oquendo dropped Vitali.

 

that the thing, im not a hater, i like the klitschko's, im a fan of both of them.

what i find amazing though is that some people, chef included, back them no matter what happens. Vitali has just been caught lying about that fight after claiming it never happened for years. We hear from every boxer/manager how they **** everyone over yet chef will come on and say its not true...boente will say on video....david haye fight Chisora...if you win you can fight vitali...and then they pretend that never happened as well....like i said im a fan, but some posters (i can see why chef is as its his job) are balls deep in the klitschkos and act as if they are innocent all the time. facts prove they arnt!

 

so is this clown basically saying Fres is better than the Klitschkos?

 

great post

 

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you dont know ****. Were you there?. I was:deal

we never brought Scott back. Go ahead, ask james bashir:deal also, butler and walker never ever dropped Vitali. Stop making **** up

 

what Vitali says about kickboxing is on Vitali, true or not... thats on him.... I am saying Fres Never ever dropped vitali. Its a flat out lie:deal ALSO like I said, Fres manager was NOT THERE, I WAS! How would he know?

 

Why are people bringing up Pele reid in a kickboxing match? Thread is about Oquendo. People love to hate the klitchkos

 

fres hasn't been ko'ed or knocked out?..im pretty sure david tua had him completely out of his feet stumbling when he stopped him

 

He also wouldn't answer the thread concerning the slave contracts article done by the German newspaper.

 

What a load of pretentious horse**** from a virtually unknown journeyman's totally unknown manager.

 

Is this the guy who also 'managed' Mickey Rourke?

 

Pretentious?

A letter calling him fat?

 

The german BILD would have been all over him. It would have been televised and written about it ALL THE TIME over here in Germany.

Yeah, Chef already answered. Learn how to read.

The guy is called Denis Boytsov. Also, Robert Hawkins? A guy with 20 losses? Retired against Charr, knocked out by Virchis. Yeah, the guy surely knows his boxing

So, he makes comparisons with fighters, Wlad has lost to and says, Fres would have beaten them and he may have beaten Wlad. Still he says no word about Wlad, who knocked, unlike Fres Oquendo, Mormeck or Byrd out.

 

Go back to the thread, you'll see there no response, even to Faerun's more extensive question.

 

Yeah and what about that answer?

And the other thing with the contracts: Did you ever think about that Chef may not be allowed to talk about stuff like that?
1st: The contracts are internal matters, a tender subject. Why should he talk about that? It's nobodies business but the parties that are involved.
2nd: The Klitschkos are his bosses. Do you think, your boss would love to read about internal matters in the media? The Klitschkos, and in some way Chef as well, are media people, celebrities. If there's somebody talking, or something goes wrong, you're ****ed.