The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

Not according to all the spectators in attendance.

Anyway, a complete list of my nominees...

Jake LaMotta
Dulio Loi
Eusebio Pedroza

Listed from top to bottom in terms of the ardor in which I will fight for their inclusion on this list.

 

Im completely with the Mike Gibbons support and am suprised to see him that low, could easily see him being as the same tier as his brother. The MW era he fought in was either the 1st or 2nd greatest ever and he was considered 'the man' for almost all of it or co-shared it occasionally. The depth of elite wins on his resume are on par with any MW in history, SRR included, and his P4P/H2H skill level is equally worthy of jumping an entire tier into IV with his brother imo.

 

Is mike gibbons a greater mw than tiger and Hopkins? I wouldn't have thought so but if that is so how can be greater than those two when they also conquered the lhw division?

 

As already stated I don't really see Sanchez>Saldivar

 

Hopkins is talked about at times as an old school fighter ,when journalist's talk about the skills he posses .

Seems that mike gibbons had the same type of plaudits this is a short Nat Fleischer thought he was the keeper of boxings scientific flame, the "nearest approach to the superb artistry of tommy Ryan that the middleweight division ever boasted"

 

1) Without a doubt in my mind Gibbons is a greater MW than either.

2) Just because you win a belt in two divisions as opposed to one doesn't inherently make you a greater fighter.

3) For this case specifically Gibbons fought the first 6 years of his career at WW and was a naturally smaller man, Tiger was a very strong MW and Hopkins huge. Bernard made his debut at 177lbs, lost to a white boy and didnt return to the ring for 14 months. He was a vegeterian than ran a crazy amount to keep his weight down so how come he wasnt fighting at a more natural SMW or LHW division his entire career facing guys more his own size especially when some of his signature MW victories are against WW's? Your argument could just as easily be flipped upside down.

 

My argument is that given the premise tiger and Hopkins are greater middleweights, they must also be greater p4p due to their latter success in higher divisions.

 

Yeah two of his losses in '12 leave you wondering how that happened but the McGoorty one is fine, Packey and Greb two of the best P4P fighters ever and O'Dowd a shamefully underrated and great MW. I don't see how any of that is an indictment against him? During a 130+ fight career in such a freakishly strong era with the fight frequency guys from that time had and comparing him to others like Holman Williams that is expected. How did Holman lose to Jannazzo or Palermo? Losing to other greats and one or two head scratchers is the norm, context is important.

 

and that is the debate in my mind. I can't see him above either unless you think he's a greater mw.