Okay time to give fighters letter grades on their level as a fighter

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  1. Pimp C

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    Since there's so much going on about this fighter is a A level fighter or a B level fighter, it's time to clear this up once and for all. Lets see who you think are A B C and D level fighters

    A level Worldclass - Elite talent P4P top that has shown the ability to beat and dominate other Worldclass talent and title holders. Some might argue you can project a fighter as A level without ever beating an A level fighter based on perceived skill level Some examples of A level are Andre Ward and PBF

    B level title holders - Good fighters that consistently beat lower level fighters but struggle against A level fighters. Some might even rank B level fighters as HOF worthy. Examples Cotto and Khan

    C Level contenders - These guys are sometimes ranked in the top 10 of their division and generally always beat lower level comp. Some might actually win a lower tier title and might even give a B level guy a good fight in a title shot. Examples Delvin Rodriguez and Edner Cherry

    D Level Journey men - These guys are fighters that have been around a long time and have a lot of experience they are usually brought in as an opponent for a young up and coming fighter. They never win a meaningful title and take fights on short notice. Examples Emanuel Augustus
     
  2. Slickstar

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    Seeing Cotto and Khan in the same category just looks wrong.

    Who are the A level guys Khan has fought
     
  3. Pimp C

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    So you're saying Khan is a C level fighter?
     
  4. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    I'd say Cotto is A-/B+

    Khan is B
     
  5. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great thread idea, I'd like to see where people's opinions fit as well... I've never been one to grade fighters by letter.
     
  6. A - Pacquiao, Martinez
    B - Mayweather, Marquez, Triple G
    C - Cotto, Bradley, Broner
    D - Khan, Bam Bam Rios, Danny Garcia
    F - Miguel Vazquez
     
  7. Pimp C

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    I realize that people can rate by + and - I didn't use it in my ratings.:good
     
  8. JMP

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    Do you want us to rate them on a historical level ability-wise or just based on the current crop? For example, historically speaking around the weight he competes in, I'd rate Andre Ward's ability as A- all-time (with somebody like Michael Spinks at 175 and Roy Jones at 168 being A+), but he'd be an A+ in today's game.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    Mostly during current crop but if you want to rate historically go right ahead.
     
  10. Slickstar

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    S Class - Floyd
    A+ Class- Hopkins, Ward
    A Class - Marquez
    A- Class - Lucas, Cotto
    B+ - Garcia
    B - Khan

    Broner either A- or B+. We still have to see more
     
  11. FloydPatterson

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    Lamont Peterson would be ranked where?
     
  12. DrMo

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    As a ranking system using letters is too crude & simple to get accurate & representative results. There will always be massive differences between the best & worst fighters in any tier.

    Its a **** idea & a lazy way of thinking imo
     
  13. Pimp C

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    I can see why you said that but I thought I would keep it simple. Feel free to use + or - on the levels.
     
  14. JMP

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    I'll go current crop then. Just some random quickly thought-up rankings:

    Floyd Mayweather Jr A+ (clearly well past his prime, but arguably the best in the world still)
    Andre Ward A+
    Wladimir Klitschko A+ (would be an A historically, but is virtually unbeatable for guys now)
    Vitali Klitschko A (only due to being in such a shitty division)
    Nonito Donaire A (incredible talent, but shows more holes in his game than Mayweather and Ward)
    Juan Manuel Marquez A (slowing down a lot, but still awesome)
    Sergio Martinez A- (nice talent, but slowing down and hasn't looked like a world-beater as middleweight champion)
    Manny Pacquiao A-
    Roman Gonzalez B+ (lack of defining wins hurts him, but may prove to be an A-level fighter)
    Abner Mares B+ (could wind up higher eventually)
    Adrien Broner B+ (could prove to be in the A-range, but too unproven)
    Brian Viloria B+
    Timothy Bradley B+
    Carl Froch B+
    Austin Trout B+
    Lucas Matthysse B+
    Mikkel Kessler B (used to be in the B+ range, but has slipped)
    Brandon Rios B
    Erislandy Lara B
    Jean Pascal B
    Chad Dawson B (looks to be regressing quite a bit)
    Bernard Hopkins B (looks just about shot. Depending on the Cloud fight, he could stay here or go down into the C-level range)
    Robert Guerrero B
    Miguel Cotto B- (looked uncoordinated, fat, and slow in his last fight. I think the Margarito and Mayweather fights will go down as his last good performances)
    Amir Khan B-
    Lucian Bute B-
    Victor Ortiz B-
    Arthur Abraham B-
    Julio Cesar Chavez Jr B-
    Tavoris Cloud B-
    Zab Judah B-
    Tomasz Adamek C+ (guy needs to hang 'em up)
    Andre Berto C+
    James Kirkland C+
    Alfredo Angulo C+
    Cornelius Bundrage C
    Vernon Paris C
    Erik Morales C
    Sergey Dzinziruk C
    Roy Jones Jr D
    James Toney E


    I'm finding it hard to rate guys like Alvarez, Golovkin, and Rigondeaux because they're so unproven, despite showing flashes of excellence and brilliance (the latter being applicable to Rigondeaux).
     
  15. Str8ryte

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    Putting Pac over Mayweather when he just got put to sleep is ****in ******ed. as well as putting Marquez in the same letter as Mayweather when he's CLEARLY A level above him. Thats just blatant bias.