Who beats Prime Muhammad Ali?

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:deal

 

Holmes possible.

Tyson has all the tools. More powerful and faster then Frazier. But Ali would probably get under his skin pre-fight and/or during the fight.

Lewis and Klitschko's have a lot of tools as well. But Ali would come in with a strategy to land something big/cut them up like he did against Foreman.

Holyfield could be very competitive on pure grit and heart I think.

 

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Prime Frazier lost twice to a past prime Ali, once embarassingly. wtf.

 

Tyson's words when asked if he would beat Ali: 'Ali is a ****ing animal. He looks more like a ****ing model than a fighter but what he is is, he’s like a Tyrannosaurus Rex with a pretty face. He’s just mean and evil and he’ll take you in deep waters and drown you. He’s very special. The best in the world…nobody beats Ali.... Hell ****ing no, I can't beat that man, no ****ing way!'

 

Wlad isn't even the best fighter in his own family, Vitaly is. Prime Vit couldn't beat past prime Lewis. Both K brothers are good, very good. They're not beating Ali.

 

Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield, Ali, Holmes would all beat each other, or have very close tough fights at their peak.

They would all have multiple fights.

 

The Klitschkos would beat prime Ali more convincingly than cruiserweight bum Henry Cooper did.

Assuming there are no illegal smelling salts around this time to bring Ali back to life, of course

 

You're getting carried away here. His stats are impressive, but this era is very weak.

Obviously he's never going to fight Vitali, so you're right, he probably won't get beat again.

He has improved, and he his a good fighter. But I personally think that he'd have struggled with guys from the 80's and 90's. I think you're overrating him quite a bit.

How would he have faired against the following guys all at their best?

Larry Holmes
Mike Tyson
Riddick Bowe
Evander Holyfield
Ike Ibeabuchi
Micheal Moorer
Lennox Lewis

There's no way he'd have beaten all of those guys in my opinion. I think he'd have struggled.

I also don't think he could beat Vitali. If they weren't related and they'd have fought, my money would definitely have been on Vitali.

He wouldn't look as good as he does now in a stronger era.

He certainly wouldn't dominate any era.

He'd have been in big trouble in the 90's.

 

The Larry Holmes, Marciano's, Joe Louis' and prime Tyson's eras were just as bad or worse than the current one

Yet that doesn't stop you nostalgists from shlurping their wangs everyday.

On the other hand, K2 have committed an unforgivable crime for dominating an era of subpar opposition as if it was their fault there's no one around good enough to challenge them.