Roach explains why Pacquiao was put to sleep

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  1. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    And how does Roach explain the 3rd RD Knockdown???
    There is a GIF of that knockdown that shows JMM shift his left foot outside of Manny's to counter him with the right perfectly.

    Or right after Manny knocked JMM down, Juan landed another flush right hand right on Manny's chin.
     
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    Here is an overhead look of the punch.
     
  3. Bazooka

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    Bottom line Freddy has not only had a bad year but all of his Cash Cows got they ass beat the **** up... He has to blame something at some point I mean it couldnt be Freddys lack of teaching his fighters defense could it?
    Freddy focuses more on offense than anything, Defense just as important you can set traps and when scoring do nearly twice the damage with each shot.

    I guess Freddy really doesnt know Defense I mean damn... I hate to say it but Khan, Chavez, and Pacquiao (Twice) have all lost due to not knowing how to cut the ring off and over committing offensively
     
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    :goodExactly...... Marquez had his foot set while Manny was running face first into his right hand :thumbsup
     
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    :lol: C'mon now, Roach is acting like Manny wears a size 20 his feet aren't that big. Manny wasn't out balanced he was out cold. Just another excuse for the *******s like the one where it took JMM 4 fights to ko Pacquiao. Well they had 4 fights and Manny couldn't ko JMM not even once. Good try *******s. :goodLearn some spanish so you could read Juan's left boot it says "Numero Uno". Your daddy is number 1.
     
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    Wow just looking at him instantly go to sleep falling face first then that chin cracking at full force on the canvas, if I were Roach I wouldnt be calling for any more fights from Manny look at that especially the Canvas meeting the Chin Marquez shattered. :-(

    You are going to see a very different Pacquiao next time out I promise you he was knocked out twice with one shot....
     
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    His ****in big ass head bounced off the canvas just as bad if not worse than it did off of Marquez' fist.
     
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    it was his chin bro he fell face first if you look at it on the other camera angle you will see it, its pretty nasty he wont be the same again believe that. and yes it was much worse than what Marquez's shot did, the difference is Manny didnt feel it as he was already asleep
     
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    It's funny how so many people can have so many opinions about something that is visibly clear on video/GIF. Manny didn't step on Marquez foot, more or less his foot can bit short, nearly stepping on Marquez's - or it steps on it a little, as this angle doesnt prvide the little bit that would have. Marquez foot, though, is clearly planted on the canvas and doesn't move at all. If anything, any trip happens after the punch lands, but in this case it's not a trip, just the affects of being KTFO, from my perspective. In short, Manny fell right into Marquez shot, years of breaking the rules of boxing, caught up with him, just like RJJ against Tarver in the rematch... as you get other, your opponent has more opportunities there are to exploit habits.
     
  10. Jim Bowen

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    It's probably true, also Roach isn't using this to besmerch Marquez, as he said it was Manny on JMM's foot. It can come across as an excuse, but its only as much an excuse as I wasn't thinking, or I let my hands drop. He made a mistake and he paid, this was just one of his mistakes.
     
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    for you - chicken legs
     
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    Roach talking **** again :patsch
     
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    Bogo theres no question the trip contributed to the KO. Manny was completely off balance by the time the punch hit. And yes, Marquez set the punch up perfectly - Pacquiao walked into it. It was a perfect shot, and the trip-up only contributed to it.





    Manny tripped on JMM's foot , what's the big mystery here? It's clear as day. He was falling into the punch before it landed. If you think that had nothing to do with the KO your delusional.




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    Here's another view . Look carefully a second before the pucnh lands, Pacquiao front leg gets tied up and he loses balance , and he's literally falling forward. He has no legs in front of him when the punch hit. Try getting tagged with a punch with forward momentum and 0 balance under you - see if it makes a difference.
     
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    I disagree. Suppose Marquez's foot hadn't been in the way; there's nothing else in that split-second Pacquiao could have done, he was already stepping forwards in motion into the punch. His foot making contact with JMM's didn't propel him forward. The only thing he could have done was step more firmly once he landed, but the punch would have landed first. The trip led to him falling in the direction he did, but I don't think it contributed it to the KO. And if so, only extremely minimally.

    Also, that last picture is certainly not a picture from the moment of the KO.
     
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    loving those Mizuno shoes marquez has on. 200-300 dollars a pair. dahyum