The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

Now that I think of it I can understand Marciano being included over Frazier for a P4P listing (But I will be back... )

I can appreciate Rocky's undefeated streak, but I think that it's somewhat flimsy reasoning given that one messy verdict could've drastically hurt his ranking, but again, no problem with Marciano over Frazier [P4P]. Now, Rocky aside...

Again, I'm fine with giving credit for an undefeated ranking, especially to the likes of Mayweather or Lopez. But only to an extent, Joe Calzaghe's competition was mediocre. There is no escaping that.

I feel him even being considered for this list is putting too much credit into a zero that he defended so carefully that he ended up missing not only most of the other notable fighters of his era, but the top contenders in the division he supposedly dominated.

3 fighters out of the top 5 of his division? That should be unheard of in a list like this.

Especially considering the lowest tier includes fighters like Marquez or Morales, each of whom have a win over two ATGs who could still put up a fight, along with their own lists of top contenders whose scalps they collected.

 

Maybe so, but Lopez actually dominated his natural weightclass. For a very long time too, especially considering he was a short-arse.

If this was a bigger weightclass, no doubt his opponents would have gotten more exposure and thus his record would be thought of more fondly. But c'est la vie. I only bought that up for discussions sake.

But what about the rest of the post? He doesn't have a better resume than any of those in the lowest tier, I just don't think he should be in consideration for this list.

 

Lynch was the first one that stood out for me to go, McG. Your list though :good

 

You said you felt Trinidad won though. How? By seeing how many punches he could take?

 

Someone explain to me why Zarate is a good 4 tiers above the likes of Holmes and MAB?

 

More to do with de la Hoya not doing anything much in the last few rounds

 

So based on the last 3 rounds you felt Trinidad won? What about the first 9?

 

Surprised not to see Loi in there, you used to rank him highly if i remember right.

 

I love Ketchel and regard him highly but am a little uncertain about how to rate his MW era. The way he establishing himself as #1 is impressive and Papke, Kelly, the Sullivan's are very good to great wins but Thomas doesnt seem anything special and im unsure about how to look at the O'Brian wins. He was late in his career but they still seem impressive especially the stoppage win, yes? What MW Champion and era would you most compare him to?

While his dominance wasn't as long as Monzon or Hagler his siginature wins came against elite natural MW's unlike Hagler and Monzon while they have longer consistancy against more contender level opponents and elite WW's-JMW's. I would be interested in your opinion especially with your comments about Papke and Sullivan.

 

Just noticed this

lol: we agree on something