The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What were Pep's exploits in moving up?
     
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    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love the topic and have loved the thread..

    I would just llke to point out... because of my love for Jersey Joe.. that i don't think he's getting his fair shake... I can take a quick glance and see various people with ZERO wins over anybody on this list... The number I see even in the top 55 is like 20 names. That is A LOT of names with no all time great victories on there resumes. The argument of.. oh they have depth to their resume and logevity doesn't really work, because imo, to make at list like this you need a mixed of both.. If you didn't prove yourself against an all time great.. well then you're missing out on truly testing yourself. In the example of SRL.. he certainly doesn't have a long career.. his resume isn't particularly deep considering the amount of fights he had.. But his victories over all time greats is what has him in the lofty tier he enjoys on this list... Victories over Duran, Hearns and Hagler get him that spot.. Yet, somebody who has beaten 2 guys on this list... Charles twice and H. Johnson.. along with probably deserving a victory over the No. 1 or No. 2 HW in history (past his best weight) can't even "crack some people top 200".. That is just ludicris. Oohhh well.. what can you do I suppose.
     
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    I ain't that bad mayne :-(
     
  4. Drew101

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    Too inconsistent to rank Top 100, or even all that close, tbh.
     
  5. Mr Butt

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    Hopefully we will find out after the hundred has been finished

    Possibly around 115 120
     
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    Mayweather over Manny :smoke
     
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    I disagree. He had a lot of losses but he packed in over 100 fights in about 10 years. I don't think he's top 100. But I would say, he's close.
     
  8. McGrain

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    01 – Sam Langford
    02 – Harry Greb
    03 – Sugar Ray Robinson
    04 – Henry Armstrong
    05 – Bob Fitzsimmons
    06 – Ezzard Charles
    07 – Benny Leonard
    08 – Muhammad Ali
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    09 – Willie Pep
    10 – Joe Louis
    11 – Roberto Duran
    12 – Joe Gans
    13 – Packey McFarland
    14 – Archie Moore
    15 – Sugar Ray Leonard
    16 – Mickey Walker
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    17 – Barney Ross
    18 – Terry McGovern
    19 – Tony Canzoneri
    20 – Pernell Whitaker
    21 – Charley Burley
    22 – Holman Williams
    23 – Jimmy McLarnin
    24 – Sandy Saddler
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    25 - George Dixon
    26 - Barbados Joe Walcott
    27 - Stanley Ketchel
    28 - Billy Conn
    29 - Kid Gavilan
    30 -Roy Jones
    31- Gene Tunney
    32 - Tommy Gibbons
    33 - Tommy Loughran
    34 – Jack Britton
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    35 – Eder Jofre
    36 – Jose Napoles
    37 – Carlos Monzon
    38 – Jimmy Bivins
    39 – Marvin Hagler
    40 – Tommy Ryan
    41 – Emile Griffith
    42 –Alexis Arguello
    43 – Julio Cesar Chavez
    44 – Jimmy Wilde
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    45 – Ruben Olivares
    46 – Ike Williams
    47 – Fighting Harada
    48 – Carlos Ortiz
    49 – Michael Spinks
    50 – Young Corbett
    51 – Thomas Hearns
    52 - Floyd Mayweather
    53 - Manny Pacquiao
    54 – Evander Holyfield
    55 – Freddie Steele
    56 – Abe Attell
    57 – Mike Gibbons
    58 - Bernard Hopkins
    59 - Ted Kid Lewis
    60 - Luis Manuel Rodriguez
    61 - Salvador Sanchez
    62 - Wilfredo Gomez
    63 - Vicente Saldivar
    64 - Rocky Marciano
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    65 - Lou Ambers
    66 - Freddie Welsh
    67 - Jim Driscoll
    68 - Dick Tiger
    69 - Harold Johnson
    70 - Carmen Bassilio
    71 - Carlos Zarate
    72 - Manuel Ortiz
    73 - Miguel Canto
    74 - Jack Dempsey (np)
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    75 - Lloyd Marshall
    76 - Oscar De La Hoya
    77 - Azumah Nelson
    78 - Mike McCallum
    79 - Bob Foster
    80 - Pascual Perez
    81 - Panama Al Brown
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  9. Mr Butt

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    Nearly there now McGrain keep going
     
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    I like May over Pac actually... I think it's justified.
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I think Pacquiao is greater. He beat better fighters.
     
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    I think imma swap Rocky Marciano and Lou Ambers.
     
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    Do what you want panama made it:D
     
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    I thought he beat JMM in their first fight. It's a bit of a myth that JMM put on a boxing clinic after the first three rounds. Yes, JMM dominated the majority of rounds and outboxed Manny, but there were still at least 2-3 rounds in there for Manny afterwards and that on top of the 10-6 round makes it very difficult for Marquez to come out on top on the cards.

    Manny bested good versions of Barrera, Marquez, and Morales, three fighters who should all be appearing on McGrain's top 100 list. What fighters did Floyd beat who are going to qualify? ...Oscar De La Hoya? Pacquiao has the longevity, he has the ability, but the only sure way of distinguishing a great fighter is by looking at who they beat, and even outside of the three Mexicans you have a long list of solid fighters. Miguel Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Lehlo Ledwaba, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Chatchai Sasakul, Ricky Hatton, Oscar Larios, etc. He probably also deserved the nod over Timothy Bradley.

    Personally, at this point in both of their careers, I don't see any good reason to rate Floyd higher. In fact, looking at these ratings, I'd sooner have Manny in the Arguello/Spinks bracket.
     
  15. turbotime

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    But he also lost to lesser.