The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

I'm glad...now I won't be exposed horribly by a man who's life is seemingly completely engulfed by the sport. :yep

I don't even know how you do it. I've been watching **** loads this last month, but it's all stuff you've already gotten through.

 

I think calling Cotto very,very good is a stretch flea.

imo he's a solid decent but vulnerable fighter no more or less.Got overhyped because of the need for a star when the division was soft, but had a good career.Fought everyone he should have and probably overachieved considering his talent.

he's the kind of fighter the Welter Meldrick Taylor would have struggled to a close but clear decision over.Would be in very close fights with guys like Carr, Glenwood Brown etc fighters like Quartey and Claws Espana would have smashed him.

Still with the size gap it was a terrific win for Manny.So was Hatton and even clottey to a lesser extent.None of them are that good in and of themselves, but with manny being smaller it makes it more special.

 

Exactly. Once you put Manny's weight jumping into context, it's then gaps begin to form between him and Floyd imo. Well, there's also the fact he beat better fighters.

 

Even though Pac gains more weight than Mayweather after the weigh in? So he can cut more weight and that makes it more impressive? :think

 

Also regarding Chavez vs manny best wins, i don't consider the MOrales that Pac beat to be a better fighter than Rocky Lockridge, pure punching Rosario or the on-form for once Juan Laporte.Add in Martinez, Mel Taylor and a few others too.

he might not be clearly worse than someone like Rosario was when he fought Julio but he wasn't great anymore either.

marquez is Manny's great opponent.MAB too though i personally think his Pac performance should ensure he's rated at best with someone like Curry or Tito, which is hardly an insult.You have to pay the price for giving a peformance like that, right in your prime when it comes to these sort of lists.

 

All fair. I already conceded Cotto's major flaw; pressure, and how Manny's non-stop punching and engine were perfect foil for him.

I don't think Cotto is as good as a Gil Turner. But in terms of the scalps he picked up and the showings he put in I think he was rightly very well regarded going into the Margarito fight. Again he nearly unravelled against Clottey, but Manny gave him no chance.

I will rephrase though, and make myself clear; the win was very, very good. Cotto, at that stage, was good. At his best, he was very good.

I don't actually have a very, very good It's good, very good, exceptional, legendary.

 

So do you believe that Floyd re-weighed in at 147 for the Cotto fight?

 

...I almost spilled my ****in' coffee. I actually think it's a testament to MAB's qualities as a fighter that he was able to bounce back from such defeats and reign as one of the premier fighters in the world still. Curry failed to do that, as did Trinidad. No deal. MAB separated himself from the likes of those guys.

 

Also saying all that Cotto is still one of Floyd's best wins too.

 

Curry did bounce back from Honey. Less so from McCallum.

 

Margarito is a piece of ****.the hype he was getting for a while annoyed me far more to be honest.Cotto at least is an honest fighter and a trier, can't take that away from him

 

Nah. I was talking more about the 130 region when pac was gaining ridiculous amounts back.