Mike Tyson (1988) Vs Jack Dempsey (1919-21) 15 Rd Heavyweight Fight

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  1. Johnstown

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    they measure biceps none flexed..i am guessing you have measured your arms doing a bicep pose.


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    I'd say prime tyson and thicker dempsey look like their arms are close..but i agree..thats not a big difference...

    but i do think its relevant along with the other measurement about the size of these guys....my point being, i dont really think Tyson would look that much bigger next to dempsey, and in fact dempsey would be taller with the longer research.


    I think you might be right that Tyson wins, but i do find some of these comments suggesting that tyson wins this fight so easy it is easier than any other win in his career.
     
  2. BoxingFanPhil

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    This is crazy.

    A prime mike tyson would be made to destroy jack Dempsey. First of all there has been no better student of Jack Dempsey than Tyson, who watched his fights over and over on film. He'd know what Dempsey was going to do before Dempsey thought about it.

    In addition, as has already stated, there is a thirty pound advantage to Tyson.

    I don't care what anyone says, Dempsey might be a mean animal, but he isn't going to punch as hard as Tyson.

    I can't even contemplate this going beyond two with a vicious knock out. Anyone who thinks that Dempsey could survive is nostalgic.

    Bob Foster versus Jack Dempsey - now that would be a fight.
     
  3. Johnstown

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    you do raise a good point...tyson knows about dempsey...does dempsey get to know about tyson? i mean..before we juice up the Delorien for the 68 year time jump from 1919 till 1988 do we give Dempsey and his trainer as much footage of tyson as Tyson had seen of Dempsey? do we give Dempsey a training camp to get ready?
     
  4. BoxingFanPhil

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    I think the advantage Tyson would have otherwise would be stunning. Could you imagine the shock and awe affect of Tyson going at you - in the eyes of Dempsey he would have never ever have seen anything of the like. He would be thinking 'WTF is this?' picking his arse up off the floor.

    You'd have to let Dempsey peek at the highlights.

    Who would we give as a sparring partner? Now that's an interesting one...
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Tyson would smash Dempsey inside a few rounds.
     
  6. rusak

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    According to this, Dempsey's wrists are as big as his ankles. Is that even normal? I don't think it is. And 9 inches around the wrist is huge - Dempsey's wrists don't look that big.
     
  7. Johnstown

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    might be when you spent your youth hanging from the bottom of a train car....than when you got where you were going, either fighting, or working in a mine using a pick ax for hours on end....
     
  8. Johnstown

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    i'd say dempsey looks like he has thicker wrists..one inch thicker seems reasonable

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    tyson made a cast as well..but can't find the completed results


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  9. lufcrazy

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    Dempsey always had either the speed or size advantage in his career. This time he has neither.

    Tyson is a fairly big favourite here.
     
  10. Johnstown

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    i agree...although dempsey has similar physical diminsons as holyfield..he can move around well..and he knows how to stay tight for infighting.

    Tyson wasnt that great at infighting because he tended to punch a bit loopy (I know KidDynamite would get pissed at that, but its true) so if Dempsey fought smart...moved on the outside, than closed the distance fast (or let tyson close the distance and weaved down and inside when tyson threw) i think dempsey would stand a better chance than many think.


    again....Tyson did have some trouble with guys who circled, and some trouble with pressure.


    if dempsey stands at mid range though without footwork he is definitely taken out fast...otherwise, if he fights smart..i think he has a better shot than some might think...but if i was betting money...i think i would still bet tyson..but i think it could be a rough fight.
     
  11. rusak

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    9 inches around the wrist is very unusual and hanging from train cars or whatever wouldn't make much of a difference. Dempsey does not appear to have such outsized wrists in the photographs.
     
  12. Johnstown

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    you dont think his wrists look pretty thick..especially in that plaster cast?
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    Any infighting skills Dempsey might the edge in is negated by him being against a more powerful man with quicker shorter arms. No way does Dempsey win exchanges on the inside.
     
  14. Johnstown

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    tyson basically sucked on the inside to be honest.....
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    but here he is the bigger man. He has quicker, shorter and more powerful arms. How Dempsey ever gonna get off first inside?