The Transnational Boxing Rankings

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  1. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You, me, and posterity.

    I'm such a nut about it, I'm keeping hard copies of the monthly rankings in case of some cyber-terrorist yahoo.
     
  2. lufcrazy

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    The archives are an amazing inclusion. Quality stuff stoney :good
     
  3. lufcrazy

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    eugh stoney got a little suggestion that isn't really a game changer but it just keeps things easier for transfer (I have a huge database of ranked fighters that I keep and maintain for compariosns etc)

    The divisions with no champion could you perhaps insert the "champion: vacant" bit

    for example you have in the january rankings

    Heavyweight
    1. Wladimir Klitschko
    2. Vitali Klitschko
    3. David Haye
    4. Alexander Povetkin
    5. Tomasz Adamek
    6. Kubrat Pulev
    7. Eddie Chambers
    8. Tyson Fury
    9. Robert Helenius
    10. Steve Cunningham

    and I think it would be better if you had

    Heavyweight
    Champion: vacant
    1. Wladimir Klitschko
    2. Vitali Klitschko
    3. David Haye
    4. Alexander Povetkin
    5. Tomasz Adamek
    6. Kubrat Pulev
    7. Eddie Chambers
    8. Tyson Fury
    9. Robert Helenius
    10. Steve Cunningham

    it's not a massive thing it just allows things to stay in the same format (11 ranking slots per division rather than some having 10 and some having 11)

    you know what I mean?
     
  4. Stonehands89

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  5. lufcrazy

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    Absolute legend.
     
  6. Jonsey

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    Your rules state that

    Although close losses and poor wins may be reflected in the rankings, the Board will refrain from nullifying the official results, with one exception: If over 75% of the Board agrees that the judges’ decision in a non-championship bout is egregious enough to constitute a “robbery,” then the official winner may be ranked lower than the official loser.

    But Adamek is ranked ahead of Cunninghem and Chambers. Did you guys put a vote together?

    Hernandez beat Steve Cunningham who beat Marco Huck. But Huck is No. after draws and dodgy wins of Firat Arslan and Ola Afolabi. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk is also to high.

    Tony Bellew should not be top 10 at light heavy.

    Who has Thomas Oosthuizen beat to be ranked so high, above Bika, Dirrell, Groves, Magee? Why is Adonis Stevenson top 10?

    Sam Solmion, Felix Sturm and Martin Murray should not be top 10.

    How can Lara be ahead of Alvarez?

    Ortiz shouldn't be top 10.

    Peterson shouldn't be ranked ahead of khan.

    Burns shouldn't be No.2 at Lightweight.

    How can Vitali Tajbert be ranked No.5 when he lost to your No.10 ranked fighter who has since lost to your No.9 ranked fighter, and since then has fought only 6 rounders?

    Who has Frampton beaten to be ranked No.5?

    Raul Garcia has moved up and fought at the Light Fly limit.
     
  7. Longcount

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    courtesy of Tim Starks -

     
  8. Jonsey

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    Seriously do these guys even watch boxing!
     
  9. Longcount

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    That's not very gracious after Tim took time to address your comments.
     
  10. Jonsey

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    agreed. sorry for that.
     
  11. Jonsey

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    Appreciate the rankings. My issue is there appears to be no consistancey. You rank some fighters based on a good loss, and others you don’t consider. You rank fighters that have lost and performed badly consistantley and others you drop after one loss.

    You guys need to be clearer about how important it is to have done things in the past year, and when wins stop counting towarda a resume. Example, Dirrell hasnt done anything for 3 years but before that he beat AA and Froch. But Adamek & Sturm have spent 3 years losing and getting gifts and stay ranked?

    Wlad should be champ at HW but thats another argument. Adamek vs Cunningham and Chambers were robberies as bad as Pacquiao vs Bradley.

    Hernandez beat Cunningham who beat Huck! Tarver also has no place in the top 5!

    No doubt Bellew performed well against #5 Cleverly, but you can’t honestly rank him ahead of Jurgen Braehmer or Fonfora. Dawson is coming of a loss and will have gone a year without defending his title soon will be be stripped?

    This is where the consistancy factor comes in. In other divisons Magee & Dirrell would still be ranked. Groves win over DeGale and Johnson are better than Oo’s.

    Sturm needs be out of there. His last 5 fights he has 2 losses, 2 draws and a win at best. You can’t rank Martin Murray based on a draw vs Sturm who went on to do **** all after. His best win is Nick Blackwell!

    –Lara above Alvarez was one of the most heated debates when we began our rankings. There’s a case for either man there; Lara has contended on even or slightly better terms with a number of top jmws,

    I think if a fighter tests posative for PED’s and faced any kind of ban they should be removed until they return and prior wins should be forgotten.

    Ao’s loss to Diaz was a “bad loss” and he was deducted suitably for it……but you still have Tajbert ranked ahead of them both? Come on mate you guys messed up here and Tajbert needs to be out.

    Broner, Burns, Vasquez & Abril are coin flips I agree. Abril needs to be ahead of DeMarco. Did you not count Abrils win over Rios?

    Carl Frampton beat Kiko Martinez and Steve Molitor, who had lost to Takliani Ndlovou, who lost to Ajlejandro Lopez, who lost to Jonathan Romero. Those 3 should be ahead of Frampton. Quiggs win over Munroe also trumps Framptons. I am a HUGE Frampton fan but he isnt top 5 thats crazy.
     
  12. Longcount

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    Again, from Tim Starks

     
  13. Jonsey

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    have replied. in general the rankings are solid.

    but Tajbert at No.5 is unbelievable.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    These rankings are easily the most credible out there and I can think of none that are better.
     
  15. Jonsey

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    Tajbert has to go from No.5!