It's a Brooklyn thing. Look at Zab Judah, Mike Tyson, Riddick Bowe. All had MYSTERIOUSLY SHORT "PRIMES". Maybe these fighters aren't as good as you thought if their primes are only 12 ****ing months? Judah was the only one of these three BK fighters who stayed in shape, and he still couldn't hack it at elite level. Bowe is a myth. There is a reason he threw his belt in the trashcan to avoid Lewis, lost to Lewis in the ams, got outclassed by Andrew Golota, and is only remembered for action fights against a roided up LHW.
Riddick Bowe overrated? Whenever there is a top 20 Heavyweight ATG (I'm talking about Sports Writers, published stuff not just forums), he is there usually around 12. He's usually behind Lewis, who a lot consider as the last great heavyweight. He only lost once and avenged his loss. Holyfield was a cruiser. Roided or not, the man is an ATG and if you do not respect Holyfield as a fighter then YDKSAB. Mysterious primes? There are massive and very plausible explanations to their short-lived primes and underachievements. Judah - Just lacked the mentality. Simple. Folded in the big time. Tyson - First of all, fast fighters, at heavyweight too do not stay fast for that long. They just don't. Tyson was champ at 20, people peak at DIFFERENT times. How good was Wlad Klitschko at 20? He's peaking now at what 35? Not to mention all of the crazy things Tyson got up to outside of the ring. Boxing needs mentality, discipline, hard work...it's kind of the reason why we follow it and look up to these guys. Bowe - The guy just didn't like to train. There's a Eurosport documentary on him which you can find on Youtube in which he tries to have a gym at his new home, because he is that lazy. He didn't put the work in. Fights are sometimes won and lost in the gym, it's clear that's what happened to Bowe during his 2 outings against Golota. And for the record, I think he would **** Wladimir Klitschko up. He comes to fight, he ain't scared and there to hold if someone gets too close. He's not small and ain't no pushover either.
Eddie Futch seemed to think he was special enough to come out of retirement for. I believe he stated that Bowe had the most potential of any boxer he worked with. Of course, you can say that he never ended up fulfilling that potential.
So does Buster Douglas. And Oliver McCall. And Jimmy Young. If that's all that sets apart Bowe then yes, he's very overrated.
#1 Bowe's team offred Lewis what would have been a career high payday to fight but Lewis chose to fight the rabbit punching Frank Bruno and the HIV positive Tommy Morrison instead. #2 Bowe left more of a mark on the division then both Klitschko's and Lewis combined with his 3 fights with Holyfield. #3 Lennox Lewis beat old Holyfield only once and actually did worse in the rematch. Riddick Bowe beat prime Holyfield twice. #4 Bowe would smoke Lewis and both Klitschko brothers. Was Bowe an all time great? No. Was he top ten? No. Did he leave his mark? yes. Would he beat up Lewis and both Klitschko brothers? Hell yes.
He never fought Foreman, Tyson, Lewis, he didnt fight the best in his era. he fought cruiserweight in holyfield. he is overrated. his prime was 2 years? come on he quit early for a reason
i agree entirely, rock newman was the reason for the fight not to take place, and bowe was stupid enough to listen. i dont mind people thinking lewis would win, but when they say lewis has bowe's number???? how? tillis didnt have tysons number, gonzaelez didnt have bowe's or lennox's number??? etc and the people that use the golota fight to compare bowe, why? you can clearly see the difference in the quality of everything he does, compared to the first holy fight/title defences. thats like using the lewis that got ko'd by mccall yes bowe had a ridiculously short prime and career, and thats his fault, and he could have made a massive difference, just because lennox had exeptional longevity, doesnt mean would would have, every fighters different, the constant weight gain completly took it out of bowe + the last golota fight took a lot of his brain cells, how many fighters could have fought through what bowe did that night? very few, lennox certainly isnt one. and i am not discrediting lennox, him and bowe are my 2 favourite heavyweight.
Yes he was over rated when he was active based upon his performances against Holyfield who was really tailor made for him. Holyfield lacked the power to punish Bowe's poor defence, and tended to trade too much to take of advantage of Bowe's lack of mobility. The one time Holyfield did move and box a bit he beat Bowe. First time I saw Bowe was against Buster Mathis Jr. I was expecting something special based upon the what I had heard, but what I saw was a very slow heavyweight with plodding feet. I think Bowe gets rated more realistically now that time has passed. People have seen through the entertaining style and weak resume and rank him accordingly. Yes he was very good for one night and one night only against a near perfect opponent for him but anyone can be great on one night, Leon Spinks, Buster Douglas, are prime examples of that but true greatness is proven time and again, against the best available, something Bowe clearly lacks.
Not just Holyfield twice, but also wins over Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tubbs, Michael Dokes, Larry Donald, and Herbie Hide too. That's solid. Only once defeated by Holyfield who he has an ATG trilogy with which he came out ahead of... I actually think he's underrated on ESB in that his rival whom he bested gets talked about 10X as much, but hey, that's just me.
Exactly. The first point is something that many can't process and it is the most important point of all...the power aspect of Holyfield. There is a reason Newman avoided Tua, Mercer, Morrison, etc... Bowe could be hit and could be hit often and if any of the punchers would have connected, it would have been a serious problem. Bowe is a good fighter, but it is laughable when people try and apply him to anyone other than Holyfield. Tyson, Frazier, etc. all would have finished Bowe.