Does Sergio Martinez have the head movement to fight like Prime Mike Tyson?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BobNWeave, Mar 3, 2013.

  1. BobNWeave

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    I was watching some Prime Tyson fights and I realize he is 5'10 and beating up on guys who's 6'4-6'6. The primary reason for this is his head movement and bob/weave tactics.I was thinking to myself, if Sergio fight like this he can dominate the 168-175 Division. Do you guys think he can still implement the bob and weave tactic at this late age of his career? Or it's too late?
     
  2. BobNWeave

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    Mike Tyson ducked so low to the ground against Berbick, he was almost touching the ground. Sergio doing the same against someone like Froch will be crazy effective.
     
  3. BobNWeave

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    I realize its very late at the time I made this thread.. but can someone answer me? This is a unique question and I have been thinking about it for the last 2 hours straight.
     
  4. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's never too late but I guess it's not that effective.


    Tyson was a really small heavyweight where as Sergio isn't a small middleweight he is more of a normal middleweight.

    Tysons style was really effective since he fought almost always bigger and alot taller opponents therefore making his style more effective.

    Sergio doesn't really need to change his style since he is dominating every opponent and one of the planets best fighters.
     
  5. BobNWeave

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    But if Sergio go up to 168 and 175 say against 6'3 Chad Dawson do you think a bob and weave will be effective? Since Martinez is 5'10? That's a 5 inch height disadvantage? Do you have to weight in at 175 to fight at lhw? Can he just go in at like 166?
     
  6. BobNWeave

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    Ahurath are you there?
    Ahurath?
     
  7. Alexandra park

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    Acid test will be if he uses those tactics against jr in a rematch. Hes around abt your avg super middle on fight night so lets see
     
  8. BobNWeave

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    I think he would have knocked Jr out if he used the bob and weave. Jr is just like Trevor Berbick and Tyson used the bob and weave and ko Berbick easily. I think Martinez is wasting his potential by not at least attempting to use the bob and weave.
     
  9. Dipset

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    No....just no....
     
  10. BobNWeave

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    how come?
     
  11. Dipset

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    Simply put...he is to far gone at this stage in his career....Tyson spent yrs perfecting that style before even the amateurs....if you notice Tyson used upper body/head lateral movement....Martinez uses his legs more so....Martinez's style mimic's or is closer to a young Roy Jones Jrs...(search footage)...almost all leg based....(Martinez also gets hit far too much against lower caliber fighters than himself...i.e.Barker, Macklin, Dzinzurik).

    Furthermore after the knee injury I don't see him using this style as effectively in future fights...
     
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    Basically this summurazies everything. You can't teach an old dog "new tricks".
     
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    It wouldn't make sense to.
     
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    Martinez doesn't have great head movement or good defensive instincts for that matter.
     
  15. BobNWeave

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    Ok but do you think that if Sergio had trained specifically for the bob and weave when he first started boxing he could have successfully pulled it off? He is a great athlete and extremely fast. Do you think he had the head movement to pull the bob and weave tactic off when he was younger?