Morales-Barrera trilogy scorecards

Then you, my good man, are ****ed.

 

Foreman was spot on about Morales right at the start of the rematch about him being the better pure boxer but he has a hard time against Barrera pulling straight back and getting caught.

 

First - robbery, 8-4 or 9-3 to MAB, I can see 7-5 at a push. Morales got his ass kicked, Morales landed allot of punches but MAB bossed it for quality and effective aggression. Not close imo, the only people who are scoring it to Morales must not care about the quality of what's landed

Second - I can 7-5 either way, maybe leaning towards Morales but it's close

Third - 7-5 MAB, it's one of those very clear 7-5s

I could possibly see a draw, a bit of a stretch. I remember at the time, no one on the forums disputed the decision though

1 of the last Golden Boy-Arum cards this one, I remember Delahoya was borderline celebrating after the first few rounds

 

Will rewatch and rescore tomorrow.

Obviously no one would care as much (and rightly so) but I'd like to see a similar thread on the Sahaprom-Nishioka series.

 

I dare you to make this thread. I double dare you. I double dog dare you. No! I triple dog dare you!

 

it's been a while since i've thought about my scores on these fights but i believe i had:

barrera winning part 1, 115-112
morales winning part 2, 116-112 (i was at this fight sitting on the very last row at mgm)
barrera winning part 3, 115-113 (some close rounds could have gone either way)

 

Just watched the first fight with my breakfast.

114-113 for Barrera

But I believe as should everybody the knockdown in round 12 was an injustice. :-( But as I'm being the judge and not the ref I counted it.

I scored the 12th to Barrera but without the knockdown it was 114-114.:good

 

Meh. It would have barely any replies, not full scorecards anyway. A few people saying 'Nishioka was green' and the usual 'Veeraphol was better than Austin and Marquez' chatter.

 

I don't believe a judge is obligated to deduct a point due to a knockdown if he doesn't see fit. That's up to him, not the ref.

 

Barrera Vs Morales I

BARRERA: 1; 2; 4; 8; 10; 11; 12 (+1)
MORALES: 3; 5; 6; 7; 9;

BARRERA 115-112 MORALES

Such a hard fight to score for many reasons; Morales’ greater volume, which isn’t exactly ineffective, Barrera’s more accurate, crisp and eye catching offence and his clawing his way back into the rounds as they come to a close, gives the viewer many different things to mull over. Last time I scored this was years ago; I had it a draw, with Barrera winning on the silly knockdown call in the last round, but felt MAB got the better of the fight nonetheless. This time, I had him edging it, and even 7-5 here is edging it as some of the rounds are very hard to call.

Barrera Vs Morales II

“These man are paid to box Larry, don’t blame them for havin’ a brain(!)” – George Foreman.

And that’s how this fight goes, Barrera not doing enough and Morales not having to push the pace too much to take command. I think it was the 5th, 8th and 9th that could’ve gone either way, and when Barrera upped his game he looked as good as ever and of course finished the fight the stronger man. But he came in with the wrong game plan in my opinion, almost Hagler-Leonard esque in the way he threw away the first few rounds, and Morales was able to show more of himself than in their first encounter.

BARRERA: 5; 6; 9;11; 12
MORALES: 1; 2; 3; 4; 7; 8; 10

Barrera 113-115 Morales

Barrera Vs Morales III

BARRERA: 1; 3; 4; 5; 6; 9; 10; 11; 12
MORALES: 2; 7; 8;

Barrera 117-111 Morales

Surprising myself, I think Barrera won this bout clearly, even if you could justify a draw (which you can IMO) I think certain factors, see this as arguably his best showing of the series.

Barrera was pretty significantly outweighed, beat Morales on the cusp of his greatest victory, and got the better of the incredible 11th round due to greater quality even though Morales out landed him and had strong moments of his own. The 12th round was very close too so I can see 115-113 as the most likely outcome.

I think Morales was kinda’ trying to do what Barrera did in their second fight, but for me Barrera’s left hand was the big difference throughout the fight and it was he who had figured out the perfect balance by the rubber match.

This means my thoughts haven’t changed over the last few years. I still think Barrera got the better of the series, and seeing as I don’t remember the third bout as being that decisive it might be I think Barrera was clearly ‘El Terrible’s superior.

In terms of their bouts with each other......

 

Round 1: Barrera 10-9 Morales
Round 2: Barrera 10-9 Morales
Round 3: Barrera 10-9 Morales
Round 4: Barrera 9-10 Morales
Round 5: Barrera 9-10 Morales
Round 6: Barrera 9-10 Morales
Round 7: Barrera 9-10 Morales
Round 8: Barrera 10-9 Morales
Round 9: Barrera 10-9 Morales
Round 10: Barrera 9-10 Morales
Round 11: Barrera 10-9 Morales
Round 12: Barrera 10-8 Morales

Final Score: Barrera 115-112 Morales

This is one of the greatest fights of all time no doubt. It has pretty much been my favourite fight for aslong as I can remember (expect for a brief period where Carbajal vs Gonzalez I was). I'm no quite sure just how many times I've watched this fight but its got to be well into double figures. Its just that ****ing good. Barrera was coming into this fight with two losses to Junior Jones on his record and a 12 round war and stoppage of Jones conquer Kennedy McKinney. Morales on the other hand was undefeated and had come into the bout with a vicious stoppage of Junior Jones, and solid wins over the likes of an ageing Zaragoza and of 92 Olympian Wayne McCullough. Both men are personal favourites of mine, and I regularly struggle to decide who I like more.

What separates this fight for me from the likes of Castillo-Corrales and Gatti-Ward is rather than just brutality, what you have on show is a display of incredible highly tuned technical skills being thrown out of the window at times for a good dose of skull thumping. Morales was the slightly younger fighter but both men where clearly in their primes and where certainly experienced in their craft. Barrera started off the stronger, with his first action of the fight being a three punch combination of a jab, straight right, left uppercut. That sort of sets the standard of what was about to transpire. For the first few rounds you have the more fluid fighter in Barrera charging ahead working well on both the inside and outside. On the inside he was working well with that beautiful left hand he has, working it as a left hook to the body or a left uppercut to the body and head, shot flowing into the next. On the outside he was working well being a high guard parrying the jab of Morales and only once or twice being overwhelmed by Morales's own combinations which failed to show the same sort of effectiveness as Barrera's. For what its worth while I don't think Barrera had quite reached his defensive peak I do think he displayed the clearly better defence throughout, although he allowed his high guard to be broken through multiple time by Morales's vicious right uppercut on the inside.

The real swing in momentum for me came in the fourth where I thought Morales started to bully the action on the inside and keep Barrera guessing on when he could inside with his footwork. I've never been a massive fan of Morales's footwork in the same style I have as say...Lopez's, but during rounds 4 and 5 I thought he put on a masterclass here and worked his way in to really bully these rounds off Barrera. While Morales really put on quite the show in middle four rounds I scored for him, and while Barrera was working to the body nicely at times and managing to hit Morales big, I felt he couldn't match Morales's activity and at times was just allowing his guard to be broken through by Morales's right uppercut.

The real deciding rounds in this fight for me and for everybody else I'm guessing are those insane championship rounds. After 7/8 rounds of relentless beating on each other, both men somehow turn it up a gear and manage to weather the tsunami of pain they throw at each other. As for these rounds what can I say? They're pretty close aside from round 12 and maybe round 10, but Barrera just works through them with that sickening left hand he possesses. Both men get cut and both men get tagged with megashots, yet it seems rather ironic that after a display of nifty footwork and being hit by titanic shots, Morales goes down due to his own sloppy footwork and rather light shot. I'm not quite sure how I sum up how both men do as far as technically go in these rounds, other than with the words, holy ****.

The final scores are read out in favour of Morales via split decision and while all scores all close besides those of Dalby Shirley (who scores it like I do) I fail to see how this can go in favour of Morallah. He certainly showed balls out there in the face of a fluid combination puncher, with a dynamite left hand on a warpath, but that doesn't win fights, what wins fights is fluid combination punches and having a dynamite left hand. Both men will go on to rematch a division above and I shall talk of that another time.

Thoughts?

(tl;dr I scored the fight for Barrera).

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=345770

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As for the others. No write up or scorecard but:

Second: Even IIRC.
Third: Barrera.

 

So I'm not the only one who thinks cries of robbery in the rematch was ridiculous? Good stuff. :good