Joe Frazier, the most overrated heavyweight of all time

I would like to see your top 10 list, if you haven't posted it already, TS?

I don't put much stock into you giving me a top 20 where you can omit Frazier.

You'd have to leave about 9 spots blank at the very least

 

George Foreman was 0-2 against ATGs.

He lost to both Ali and Holyfield.

(after two months, I decided to answer my own question)

 

Joe Frazier won Olympic Gold,beat Jimmy Ellis by KO twice,won the biggest fight of all time in boxing (Ali fight)

Frazier is not overrated. He was known for being a rough and tough all action fighter with a mean left hook. And he was the first man to beat Ali! His 3 fights with Ali are better than most guys entire career. Frazier's wins over Jimmy Ellis,Chuvalo were very good. Frazier' win over Bob Foster was said to have been the best example of pressure fighting by a HW on film!
Frazier=ATG

 

Hasim Rahman? Frazier won Olympic gold and has 2 wins over Jimmy Ellis and a win over George Chuvalo! All by stoppage. Frazier won the biggest fight in boxing history against Muhammad Ali.

Rahman once went a 3 year span without a single win. Rahman didnt start boxing until age 20. Rahman lost to old Holyfield!

FRAZIER'S only losses are to Muhammad Ali and George Foreman both ATG's Themselves!

You=****.

 

Foreman beat Frazier twice by stoppage.
Foreman is 2-2 against ATG's.

Dumb ****!

 

If James Toney and Roy Jones could come from MW and compete at HW and even win titles,Frazier could easily fight as a CW and come up to HW if he were alive today. Frazier's left hook would decapitate most cruiser's in the first 4 rounds and would hurt most heavyweights too.
And you're right size isn't everything. David Tua was 201 pounds in his first few fights. Roy Jones was 198 when he beat John Ruiz.

Marco Huck was 209 when he "beat" Povetkin.

Holyfield was 205 when he fought Bowe the first time.

Frazier is plenty big enough. Frazier at 205 would kill David Haye,Denis Boytsov,Povetkin,Marco Huck,Denis Lebedev etc

 

Oh why is this one back... :huh:-(

 

I am speechless. I am a huge Rahman fan...but that comment is DISGUSTING and ****ING ******ED.

Frazier beat a slew of good fighters. Rahman did not.

Wow. Just wow.

 

Joe's best 5 wins?

 

I also CAN NOT STAND when people say guys like Frazier or Marciano would be cruiserweights today. Ever stop to think about nutrition and all the other enhancements in training that exist today? They would both be bigger than they were years back with the methods they had at their disposal.

God damnit, some of you people are ****ing ******ed. Much be a combination of teenagers and Boxrec warriors. I don't see many, if any, lists that don't have Frazier in the top 10.

 

More likely middle weight.
--
Rocky Marciano
height 5′ 11″ / 180cm
reach 67″ / 170cm
1955-09-21 188¼ Archie Moore 188

 

Get the **** out you moron. Marciano was gonna be 28 pounds less than he was? I can't. If I could smack you through this laptop monitor, I would.

 

What would his 67" reach be with modern food, keyboard warrior?

 

I never said his REACH would grow you ****ing troll. I said he would be bigger. As in he would weigh more.

Jesus Christ. Either you are a troll or you are a ****ing idiot.

I can't deal with you. You lost all credibility when you said he'd be a middleweight. Goodbye.

 

He'd be fighting...

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
height 6′ 0″ / 183cm
reach 73″ / 185cm
2012-09-15 158 Sergio Gabriel Martinez 159