Pacquiao vs. Marquez III was not a robbery.

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  1. DABOZ

    DABOZ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    p.s. Peds
     
  2. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    It was the most clearcut of the first 3 fights in JMM's favour, pure robbery
     
  3. casian72

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    Guys like Lester and onepunchko will always argue in favor of Pacquiao, no matter what the reality is. Lester, Pacquiao was the media darling and he and Arum wielded a lot of influence. Hence, why he was given way too much credit for his ineffective aggression. That's why you get those skewed polls numbers. But the fact still remains that even in the poll you stated, a JMM victory or a draw still outnumbered a Pac victory significantly. JMM won fight #3 but didn't get the decision. That's a robbery. Maybe not blatant, but still a robbery, nonetheless.

    Plus to the majority of real boxing fans know the issue was settled in part 4. Now do us all a favor and get on with your life.
     
  4. yOyOyO_26

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    was probably a ped vs ped match
    the better fight won on even terms
     
  5. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It should've been a well-deserved win for JMM.
    The very reason Pac-JMM 4 happened is because they BOTH felt something to prove.
    The reason why JMM KTFO6 Pac happened is because they BOTH felt they hadn't had the best of each other yet (contrary to JMM's bickering of course, he's always been a sore loser like that).

    That being said, calling it a robbery is silly.
    Pac- Bradley is a robbery. Williams-Lara is. Abril-Rios is. ODLH-Trinidad is.

    This was a close fight that could've gone either way, depending on what you favor more in terms of judging a round.

    I agree that giving Pac more than 5 rounds is really favoring him as a boxer.
    Personally, I had it at a draw.
    JMM "cruising" on the championship rounds caused him the fight, IMO.

    The judges' scorecards tho, not that is a different story.
     
  6. Bogolazo

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    If so then the Bradley fight wasn't either
     
  7. yOyOyO_26

    yOyOyO_26 Guest

    the Bradley fight was closer than the Marquez fight
     
  8. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    OK sir. :lol:
     
  9. yOyOyO_26

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    why you laughing ******* :huh
     
  10. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My point is not that Pac won, or that the right score was a draw, as was the average press score. The point is, it can't be a robbery by definition if there's so much disagreement among experienced, named observers. 2-3 guys can be way off, but you won't get dozens of experts miscalling a blatant robbery, it stops being a robbery. The threshold for robbery is not 52/48 or whatever, it's like 70/30 or probably wider.

    It's interesting how you phrased it above, JMM win or draw outnumbers Pac win. If it was a robbery, you wouldn't have to include the second part. I get to include that in my argument, since I'm not trying to convince you Pac won clear cut.

    Not sure what 4 has to do with this topic, sounds like you got a bigger point to prove anyway.
     
  11. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So how come we got 117-111 on average for Bradley, and 114-114 for JMM on 100+ expert scorecards? That's not even a small difference
     
  12. yOyOyO_26

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    because there is alot of *******s in this world
    stop using statistics and go watch the fight and score it round by round
     
  13. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That would only add one score whichever way. I don't think my score is so special to override dozens of others. Well, maybe to me, but I don't see why it would to you.

    If I were you, I'd trust writers with some (any) reputation in boxing putting their name next to their scorecard, before I'd trust some guy on ESB. For one, they're doing it for money, and credibility helps. By contrast, most posters are here to vent frustrations and do a little hatin'.

    I should amend that. Most are not here for that, most of the volume here is generated by such posters
     
  14. yOyOyO_26

    yOyOyO_26 Guest

    who's your favourite fighter?
     
  15. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    philippine media scored it for jmm.