Richard Abril vs. Sharif Bogere & Gary Russell Jr. vs. Vyacheslav Gusev RBR

atsch The fight was not close..dont see how you can say it was when Rios barley won 2-3 rounds tops (being generous to give him that many rounds)

 

The fight was not close in your eyes in your opinion... and in the opinion of many others, However I just didnt really see a fight I saw allot of holding and you do not score points holding.

and I am sorry that type of fight to me is not skills, its not defense, its an illegal tactic. if you cant find a way to use actual defense meaning move your head away from shots, use your legs to move away from your opponent or blocking shots or picking off shots if you have none of that about you, and your Defense is simply holding, then you are not a skilled fighter and do not deserve the benefit of the doubt in terms of scoring I am sorry but thats just the way I see it.

 

Finally we can have a civil conversation.:good

I understand where you coming from and for the longest, thats all I've been trying to get a better understanding on your view...I understand your points but wholeheartly disagree.

He did actually evade Rios for the most part and clinched when Rios got on the inside to offset Rios inside fighting. The reason why I gave this fight to Abril is because he forced his gameplan on Rios in which that falls under ring generalship...Yes, I can agree that Abril was boring as ****, you wont get a single arguement from me on that...It was ****ing horrible but that shouldnt stop me from rewarding a guy for sticking to his gameplan...thats the my main point...If Rios actually had some success on making Abril work and making Arbil pay dearly whenever he tried to clinch..It was up to Rios to enforece his gameplan on Abril in which I clearly didnt see.

Also Abril defense wasnt spectacular but it did limit Rios and he got him out of harms way when he needed to...Like I said, I know I cant change your opinion on this matter but just was trying to get an understanding on how you feel.

I guess we can agree to disagree...You still a punk though j\k!:good

 

Look at who the judges where in that fight go to boxrec then click on the judges name and follow the previous bouts they have scored and what their scoring was you will have a much better idea in what they prefer

For example Throw bridge who scored the fight for Rios also had Pac beating Marquez in the 3rd fight 116-112 so its obvious he likes the man coming forward

jerry roth who also had it for Rios scored Bradley vs Pac for Pac 115-113

He also had Margarito up 96-94 against Cotto in fight 1 at the time of stoppage you have two ring side judges that prefer the man coming foward...

you cant just blame corruption as if they were paid to rob a guy, this is what they prefer to see, and when you have this type of information available to you as a fighter you may want to do some home work and see what type of fights these judges like....

 

I gotcha!:good I'll look into that and get back with you!

 

Edited my last post

 

Roth is a solid ring side official, he scored Hopkins Taylor 1 for Hopkins 116-112 also had Trinidad beating DLH 115-113 this is a man who likes to see fighters come forward so its not like we can automatically assume its corruption this information is out there fans should look into these judges and their scoring history before making the assumption a fighter was robbed

 

No, fact is what THEY say it is. :rofl

I decided to save my breath. You can't discuss anything with idiots that think they have the right to define "fact" in a manner that suits their agenda.

 

Nah I think the approach in them having access to the judges information past fights scored will help them have a better understanding how and why Rios got the win....

You have 2 of the three judges if you look at the fights they have judged they have all favored the man coming forward.

 

I told them pages and threads ago that judges score things differently. All this started for me when I took exception to someone stating his opinion and calling it "FACT". Truth is when you have a fight going the distance with no serious damage either way you are always open to subjective opinion.

 

I hear ya but I dont think they understood nor knew they could go back and look up those judges and previous fights they have scored....
How many of these people here who argued with both you and I have stated Hopkins was robbed against Taylor?

One of the judges that scored the fight for Rios, who they claim is corrupt ended up scoring the 1st Taylor Hopkins fight in favor of Hopkins..... so it goes to show you that the two of the three judges when you do your home work prefer the man coming forward.... it also eliminates the idea that they are corrupt because that judge saw one fight maybe a few the same way they did....

to me it eliminates the whole idea of this big corruption with Bob Arum conspiracy

 

atsch

 

Be done here then little girl I aint going to be mad at ya for leaving the conversation

 

Trying to be objective is its own punishment on ESB.

 

Yeah judges prefer the fighter who comes forward.... but the aggresor has to be effectiv.... was rios effectiv in his "aggresion"? No he was not! Almost landing nothing on Abril when Abril was able to land many jabs (rios showed no jab at all) and many power shots (at least much more than rios).
Rios was tired as ****! Even could not make the weight wich is very very bad before a fight because you have to drain yourself very much in order to get at least near the weight!
No wonder he looked **** in this fight! 135 is to low for him!!!
Juts because you come forward in a fight this does not mean you win it! You have to be effectiv by doing it which rios was not at all!